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18:41:27  <nahamu>my mlogin session feels sluggish when I try to pull stuff from the internet.
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18:46:44  <tjfontaine>nahamu: the phrasing there confused me, do you mean your downloads are slow or that you get higher latency in keyboard response time the more bw you consume in your session?
18:49:29  <nahamu>I think the downloads are actually slow.
18:49:43  <nahamu>but perhaps I should try running the job non-interactive at this point.
18:50:25  <nahamu>I'm using (abusing?) Manta as a build system: https://us-east.manta.joyent.com/nahamu/public/salt/build-salt.sh
18:50:50  <tjfontaine>I use it as a build system all the time, that's not to say I would git clone or install deps from inside manta, I would push them in externally
18:51:06  <nahamu>but since I want a newer pkgsrc tree I have a bunch of stuff to pull down.
18:51:45  <nahamu>so perhaps better to pre-build the work environment into a tarball and upload that into manta and do the work "next to/on" that tarball...
18:53:36  <tjfontaine>right include that as an asset and extract in a init phase
18:54:33  <nahamu>still, if that clunky way works, at least I have a repeatable build. :)
18:55:38  <nahamu>optimization can come next.
18:55:44  <mcavage>nahamu: you get NAT'd in manta compute
18:55:54  <mcavage>so if you're d/l tons of crap it's going to hurt, and you're going to get throttled.
18:57:10  <nahamu>mcavage: that seems reasonable.
18:58:03  <mcavage>so yeah you probably want to prebuild a tarball and bring it in to do whatever you need to do.
18:58:13  <mcavage>you're not the only trying to do manta-as-a-build-system, fwiw ;)
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