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16:59:05  <tjfontaine>https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/nodejs.org/weekly-status <- trevnorris AlexisMocha jasnell chrisdickinson cjihrig
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17:22:20  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: strange. the page hit a "redirect loop"
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17:29:19  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: did you all get kicked out of the meeting?
17:29:48  <tjfontaine>trevnorris: no -- but I have had that same pathology regarding google hangouts dropping into a redirect loop :/
17:29:59  <trevnorris>bugger. remember how you fixed it?
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17:30:15  <tjfontaine>I opened anew tab and pasted the url in again
17:30:31  <tjfontaine>fwiw the meeting is over -- unless there's somethign you want to go over with me?
17:30:33  <tjfontaine>or others
17:30:45  <trevnorris>nope. just curious why hangouts is hating.
17:31:11  <tjfontaine>I dunno -- it's some of my least favorite technology -- but its free
17:31:34  <trevnorris>true
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17:41:53  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: would you be cool w/ Buffer#indexOf() ?
17:42:48  <tjfontaine>seems like arraybuffer has it?
17:43:53  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: yup. typed arrays have it.
17:44:37  <tjfontaine>seems reasonable -- anything that puts us on the arraybuffer train I'm down with :)
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17:45:11  <trevnorris>cool
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20:38:13  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli v0.12 * 878c40e : mdb_v8: fix symbols not loaded properly (+2 more commits) - http://git.io/b2Oh
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22:23:22  <simar|on>can someone with libuv github admin access assign me this PR and the related Issue as a collaborator?
22:23:27  <simar|on>PR: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/pull/185
22:23:40  <simar|on>Issue: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/issues/174
22:24:17  <simar|on>would love to have the libuv "collaborator badge" on my github profile!
22:24:27  * simar|onis hopeful :)
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22:29:58  <jgi>trevnorris: pong
22:30:33  <trevnorris>jgi: just fyi, about to throw up an important bug fix for AsyncWrap
22:30:50  <jgi>trevnorris: do you have any GH issue/PR link with some context?
22:31:21  <trevnorris>jgi: nope. it's just a one liner. forgot a condition in the early return of the AsyncWrap constructor.
22:31:35  <jgi>trevnorris: what’s the impact of this bug?
22:31:52  <trevnorris>that people can't use an undocumented feature. :P
22:32:40  <jgi>trevnorris: does the fix break any public API?
22:33:03  <trevnorris>no.
22:34:47  <jgi>trevnorris: ok, thanks for the heads up!
22:36:03  <trevnorris>yup :)
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22:43:22  <jgi>trevnorris: also, did you intend to land it or just to submit a PR? I would rather land it post v0.12.0, just not to break anything before the release.
22:44:06  <trevnorris>jgi: I was just going to land it. it is seriously trivial. i'll post it for you to look at real quick before I do and you can decide.
22:45:27  <jgi>trevnorris: ok thanks!
22:45:32  <trevnorris>yup
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22:49:54  <trevnorris>jgi: here it is: https://gist.github.com/trevnorris/a5af138f113f24e1d21f
22:50:03  <trevnorris>the only important thing is the first change.
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22:57:36  <tjfontaine>trevnorris: pong
22:57:49  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: just what I was speaking to jgi about ^
22:58:07  <trevnorris>imo that should make it in pre v0.12 release. it's important for anyone that wants to experiment w/ the async_wrap api.
23:01:03  <tjfontaine>which feature does ti change about asyncwrap?
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23:01:13  <jgi>trevnorris: thanks
23:01:26  <tjfontaine>I thought the internal api was already checking the functions had been set to know if it was enabled?
23:01:59  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: this is to always call the init callback on a child of a handle that had its own init callback run.
23:02:09  <trevnorris>e.g. an incoming connection to a TCP server.
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23:02:30  <trevnorris>otherwise it's impossible to trace the origin of the connection back to the tcp server that accepted it.
23:02:49  <trevnorris>(in the case the user has disabled kCallInitHook)
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23:04:10  <tjfontaine>we're just talking about (!env->call_async_init_hook() && parent != NULL)
23:04:36  <trevnorris>yeah. but it shouldn't continue on parent != NULL if the callbacks haven't been set. so
23:04:58  <trevnorris>to answer your previous question, no. there was no need to previously check if the callbacks had been set. that logic was removed.
23:06:36  <tjfontaine>so, I'm not necessarily opposed to the change, but it feels a little late right now to do this -- ideally we have a test case, though admittedly that's harder because it's all internal
23:06:53  <rendar_>what are the async_wrap api?
23:06:55  <tjfontaine>it's likely we're going to have a patch release next week for a roll up after new issues are found
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23:08:25  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: okay. then just let me know when v0.12.0 is cut so I can merge the change. thanks.
23:08:37  <tjfontaine>yup
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23:24:58  <jgi>trevnorris, tjfontaine, cjihrig, chrisdickinson, jasnell, AlexisMocha, othiym23: we closed all remaining issues except the upgrade to npm 2.5.0 in the 0.11.17 milestone: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues?q=milestone%3A0.11.17+. I would suggest doing the 0.12.0 release now, and upgrade to npm 2.5.0 in 0.12.1. Thoughts?
23:25:15  <trevnorris>sure
23:27:25  <tjfontaine>jgi: wfm
23:30:51  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli v0.12 * 02566a7 : Now working on 0.12.0 - http://git.io/baEo
23:31:00  <jgi>trevnorris, tjfontaine: thank you
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23:41:30  <othiym23>jgi: why wait? we know the failure are only test-related, and those proxy issues are bad
23:43:54  <jgi>othiym23: I think we can do the upgrade in a 0.12.1 release, and users can upgrade via npm install -g npm@someversion right?
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23:44:19  <jgi>othiym23: it is very likely there is going to be issues with v0.12.0 that will need to be fixed quickly
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23:45:07  <othiym23>jgi: I have problems with shipping a version of npm that has known issues that will make it difficult for users behind proxies to upgrade npm
23:45:10  <jgi>othiym23: also, I wasn’t 100% sure that the issues were only test related
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23:46:51  <othiym23>I am 100% confident that the issues are entirely around hock not closing because the npm Agent sets Keep-Alive
23:47:07  <othiym23>when I hack up hock to set Connection: close on all its requests, all of the tests pass
23:49:43  <jgi>othiym23: let me check again, but If I remember correctly, I still got errors after installing npm/npm-registry-mock#connection-close
23:50:40  <othiym23>jgi: that branch has isaacs's fix, which makes changes to npm-registry-mock at a higher level, and is using a semver-major different version of the npm-registry-mock interface, so it requires fixups to the tests
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23:51:08  <othiym23>I am talking about a change I made by hand to the hock that npm-registry-mock depends on
23:51:50  <othiym23>it's a hack (hock shouldn't be defeating keep-alive unless the user wants that behavior), which is why it's not the patch we're landing
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23:53:11  <othiym23>if you ship 2.4.1 in 0.12, you are going to significantly increase the support load on npm's issue tracker unless and until a version of Node is shipped that includes the patched npm
23:53:49  <tjfontaine>is that the version? I thought it was 2.3.0?
23:54:45  <jgi>othiym23: currently, the v0.12 branch contains npm 2.3.0
23:55:41  <othiym23>2.3.0 is the first version that includes the patch from cnpmjs that changes the Agent behavior and has this problem
23:56:03  <jgi>othiym23: how can I apply your patch to hock in deps/npm?
23:56:18  <jgi>othiym23: I lost the link to it
23:57:06  <othiym23>there was not a patch for that
23:57:15  <othiym23>there was only the change I made by hand
23:57:37  <othiym23>because it is not a fix for the problem, it is a hackaround I made to test that our hypothesis about the cause of the test failures was correct
23:59:13  <jgi>othiym23: yes, with the link to the change, I could verify that all the tests actually pass
23:59:35  <othiym23>if we can't get this resolved, I am going to have to be very noisy about advising people to not upgrade to 0.12 until this is fixed
23:59:40  <jgi>othiym23: I only re-ran the tests after installing npm/npm-registry-mock#connection-close, which turned out not to fix the tests, as you explained
23:59:50  <othiym23>I am done talking about this for now
23:59:59  <othiym23>I am going back to try to get the tests passed