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01:00:14  <MI6>joyent/node: Colin Ihrig v0.12 * 2944934 : fs: add access() and accessSync() - http://git.io/sfMeaQ
01:05:06  <jgi>trevnorris: ping
01:09:17  <trevnorris>jgi: pong
01:10:10  <jgi>trevnorris: hi! Just a heads-up to let you know that I restarted the merge from scratch, and I think I’m close to finish it. It will be easier for me if we don’t commit anything in v0.12 before I actually push the merge
01:10:25  <jgi>trevnorris: I should have send a message before, sorry about that
01:10:31  <jgi>s/send/sent/
01:10:48  <trevnorris>jgi: whoops. sorry. no more merging until its done. :)
01:10:56  <jgi>trevnorris: great thanks!
01:11:06  <trevnorris>thank you for redoing the merge.
01:11:12  <jgi>trevnorris: the new PR for the merge is here: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/9018
01:12:05  <trevnorris>jgi: great. ping me when you're ready and i'll sign it off.
01:13:16  <jgi>trevnorris: will do
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01:34:55  <jgi>cjihrig, octetcloud: ping
01:35:32  <cjihrig>jgi: pong
01:36:36  <jgi>cjihrig: Hi! I’m finishing the merge from v0.10 to v0.12, and I ran into a test failure here: https://github.com/misterdjules/node/blob/merge-0-10-into-0-12/test/simple/test-child-process-spawn-typeerror.js#L110. It seems that it’s expected to fail since we don’t allow non-object parameters as of 9d957747222da95e7c55142d25f59466c07857dc.
01:36:47  <jgi>cjihrig: I just want to make sure 9d957747222da95e7c55142d25f59466c07857dc is still valid and relevant.
01:37:33  <jgi>cjihrig: in which case I would change the assert.doesNotThrow to an assert.throws
01:38:01  <jgi>cjihrig: even though a similar test already exists here: https://github.com/misterdjules/node/blob/merge-0-10-into-0-12/test/simple/test-child-process-spawn-typeerror.js#L81-L83
01:39:14  <cjihrig>jgi: yea, i had to make the same change on the original merge - https://github.com/cjihrig/node/commit/d1db0e333359e9c3675b4bf1e9820b167cb33587
01:40:05  <jgi>cjihrig: ok thanks!
01:40:45  <cjihrig>you might want to use https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8928 also
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03:30:06  <jgi>cjihrig: yep, I landed that too
03:30:23  <jgi>cjihrig: thanks!
03:30:26  <jgi>trevnorris: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/9018#issuecomment-69690380
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03:49:05  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli v0.12 * 21c2636 : Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/v0.12' into merge-0-10-into-0-12 (+82 more commits) - http://git.io/lvZGRA
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18:43:07  <jgi>tjfontaine: I remember we discussed our merge workflow recently, but I don’t remember the details. I remember though that we want to merge earlier and more often. Do we want to merge after each release, or as soon as even just one change lands anywhere (the target of the merge depending on where the change landed originally)?
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18:45:28  <tjfontaine>jgi: in general merge early and often, that would mean a change that forward applies should result in a forward merge (imesho)
18:45:54  <tjfontaine>jgi: in the event that we have big/bulky changes that happen after releases I would suggest an alternate work flow than the one each of us got burned by this time
18:46:43  <tjfontaine>jgi: in the event of a merge we want to iterate on, do the `git merge` without any local conflict resolution, but perhaps without any unecessary deps/* changes
18:47:20  <tjfontaine>jgi: so: git merge upstream/v0.10 && git reset -- deps/ && git checkout -- deps && git add -A && git commit -m 'initial merge'
18:47:29  <tjfontaine>this will result in something very very unclean
18:47:44  <tjfontaine>which still has the actual merge conflicts in the files
18:48:05  <tjfontaine>then as we iterate on fixing the conflicts we do them in stand alone commits
18:48:45  <jgi>tjfontaine: alright, that sounds like an interesting workflow to try
18:48:49  <jgi>tjfontaine: thanks!
18:48:51  <tjfontaine>then whenn all is done we can rebase all those commits into a single patch (or leave separate of course)
18:49:05  <tjfontaine>redo the merge, and git apply
18:49:22  <tjfontaine>resolving the conflicts in one fell swoop, and having a clean merge artifact
18:49:39  <tjfontaine>just to complete the thought
18:49:59  <tjfontaine>*but* I advocate more a model where we merge immediately after updating the prior branch
18:50:29  <jgi>tjfontaine: what do you mean by “redo the merge”?
18:52:00  <tjfontaine>git checkout --track -b merge-temp upstream/v0.12 && git merge upstream/v0.10 && <unclean conflict resolution> -> git checkout --track -b merge upstream/v0.12 && git merge upstream/v0.10 && git apply merge-temp.patch ... git push upstream-rw HEAD:v0.12
18:52:05  <tjfontaine>highly abbreviated
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18:54:25  <jgi>tjfontaine: ok I understand now
18:56:07  <jgi>tjfontaine: I’ll start using this workflow when landing the next couple patches that will land in v0.10
18:56:17  <jgi>tjfontaine: that is, merging v0.10 in v0.12 as I land these changes
18:56:50  <jgi>tjfontaine: the “short” workflow, not the long one you just described
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19:27:16  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli v0.10 * 31051e5 : deps: revert backport b593aa8 from v8 upstream - http://git.io/Wgcv0Q
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19:31:34  <trevnorris>jgi: awesome. thanks for finishing the merge.
19:32:04  <jgi>trevnorris: no problem. I’m currently working on landing these: https://github.com/joyent/node/milestones/0.10.36
19:32:26  <jgi>trevnorris: then I’ll work on this: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/9020 and this: https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/9019
19:32:54  <trevnorris>nice.
19:33:20  <trevnorris>i assigned several to myself that I need to merge now that the 0.10 -> 0.12 is done.
19:34:15  <jgi>trevnorris: things to land in v0.10?
19:35:25  <trevnorris>i think both
19:36:22  <jgi>trevnorris: ok, could you please add them to the 0.10.36 and 0.11.15 milestone? That makes things easier to track in my opinion.
19:36:52  <trevnorris>sure thing
19:36:54  <jgi>trevnorris: also, are we confident that these changes are safe for the 0.10.36 release? I’d like to stop our long streak of breaking stable releases :)
19:37:15  <jgi>(for which I had a big part)
19:38:03  <trevnorris>jgi: the only one for v0.10 is 9017
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19:45:44  <jgi>trevnorris: ok. I think the test should be more thorough and I don’t like the implementation too much. I will post comments in the PR as soon as I am finished with merging v0.10 into v0.12 after landing https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8999.
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20:06:27  <jgi>trevnorris: should https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8789 be forward ported to v0.12? I’m not sure if V8 from v0.12 has this issue.
20:10:59  <trevnorris>jgi: I don't believe the code will apply. v8 changed a lot between the two.
20:11:16  <jgi>trevnorris: the code doesn’t apply, but it still uses sched_yield
20:11:39  <trevnorris>jgi: hm, could the PR be shimmed into v8 into v0.12?
20:11:42  <jgi>trevnorris: and the merge would be easy to make. However, I’m not sure if v0.12 has this problem.
20:12:34  <jgi>trevnorris: I will try to reproduce the problem on v0.10 and on v0.12
20:13:14  <trevnorris>jgi: going to say yes. looks like the ref'd issue addresses v0.11: https://github.com/strongloop/strong-agent/issues/3
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20:22:25  <jgi>trevnorris: ok, I reread the whole thread and now it makes more sense, thanks! :)
20:24:06  <jgi>trevnorris, tjfontaine: is floating a patch ok in v0.12? I know that V8 in v0.12 is old, but I seem to remember that until recently we tried to upstream V8 changes made in v0.12.
20:24:40  <trevnorris>jgi: floating a patch is fine. v8 in v0.12 is old enough that they won't accept any upstream patches.
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22:18:55  <MI6>joyent/node: Julien Gilli v0.12 * fbfe562 : Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/v0.10' into v0.12 (+2 more commits) - http://git.io/MMR-1w
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22:20:23  <tjfontaine>jgi: regarding floating patches, it should be a rare case
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22:20:48  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson_: you around at the moment?
22:21:14  <chrisdickinson_>tjfontaine: yep, what's up?
22:21:26  <tjfontaine>did you receive my most recent email to team@nodejs.org?
22:21:30  <jgi>tjfontaine: does that case qualify in your opinion: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8789? I already merged v0.10 in v0.12, which forward ports this change, but we can revert that if needed/wanted.
22:21:51  <chrisdickinson_>I don't think so
22:22:10  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson_: it would have *just* happened :)
22:22:26  <tjfontaine>it should go through your @nodejs.org account, if you have that pointed somewhere
22:22:27  <chrisdickinson_>ah, there we go
22:22:45  <chrisdickinson_>gmail just wasn't auto-updating
22:23:13  <tjfontaine>jgi: ideally that will find its way upstream, and is relatively uncontroversial
22:23:53  <tjfontaine>jgi, chrisdickinson_: I'm about to start a thread about the openssl upgrade, but want to pick up where we were on our plans for "fixing" floating patches on dependencies
22:24:17  <chrisdickinson_>I kind of got derailed by the holidays, unfortunately
22:24:43  <tjfontaine>that's what happens, it's ok, just wanted to give you the heads up that I was about to resume :)
22:24:49  <chrisdickinson_>totally cool, thanks :)
22:25:40  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson_: can you ping wyatt and find out if he received that email as well?
22:26:07  <chrisdickinson_>will do
22:26:10  <tjfontaine>thanks
22:29:09  <jgi>tjfontaine: sounds good (re floating patches)
22:29:24  <tjfontaine>jgi: thought it was germane at least to your question :)
22:30:09  <jgi>tjfontaine: yep! (I had to look up germane in a dictionary though :) )
22:30:22  <tjfontaine>:)
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