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09:15:12  <txdv>saghul: tcp_write_queue_order test fails on msys2 for me
09:19:53  <txdv>trying out gdb in msys2
09:20:10  <txdv>but for some reasons it doesnt have debugging symbols
09:20:32  <txdv>using the linux terminal for development on windows is sweet
09:20:54  <txdv>the only problem is that when I try to proxy from home to my work computer something doesn't work
09:22:50  <txdv>have you compiled it on msys2 with debugging symbols?
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09:27:22  <saghul>txdv: you mean core files generation?
09:27:36  <saghul>that is done by the kernel and thus unsupported on Windows AFAIK
09:28:05  <saghul>re the failing test: I've seen it fail pseudorandomly haven't looked deeply into it
09:31:04  <txdv>i get a consistent segmentation fault
09:31:16  <txdv>debugging with printf is a pain
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09:39:40  <saghul>txdv: for debugging I think Visual Studio might be the best option
09:39:54  <nathan7>'morning
09:40:07  <nathan7>saghul: that's like the one thing I miss on non-Windows OSes
09:40:12  <nathan7>saghul: and I've been missing it for *years*
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09:44:51  <saghul>maybe we all need to switch to Windows and use this: http://visualgdb.com/
09:45:09  <nathan7>saghul: dude
09:45:22  <nathan7>saghul: remember the borderless rdesktop thing from years ago?
09:45:46  <nathan7>saghul: like, windows XP VM, hacked terminal services DLL, and you had windows things display right on your normal desktop
09:46:16  <nathan7>saghul: connect it to your gdb socket, tadah
09:48:01  <brucem>LLDB is coming along nicely.
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09:48:26  <brucem>and at least 2 groups have been working on things to plug it into Visual Studio ...
09:48:43  <saghul>oh!
09:50:59  <txdv>nathan7: link?
09:52:44  <txdv>i mean the visual studio under linux
09:53:36  <nathan7>txdv: well, no, you'd run a windows VM
09:53:54  <nathan7>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
09:54:23  <nathan7>apparently that works fine with win7: http://acmyau.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/seamlessrdp-from-linux-to-windows-7/
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10:43:13  <txdv>saghul: am I blind, or is the visual studio project file missing?
10:45:38  <txdv>i have to build the first with vcbuild.bat
10:45:39  <txdv>strange
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11:01:41  <saghul>txdv: the sln file is generated with gyp, so you need to run gyp_uv.py or vcbuid.bat nobuild
11:02:00  <saghul>check the nobuild option, IIRC it was called that way
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13:22:43  <lanceball>morning!
13:22:56  <lanceball>I have a question about UDP
13:23:25  <lanceball>I am reading some docs here http://nikhilm.github.io/uvbook/networking.html#udp
13:23:38  <lanceball>and trying to understand node's implementation of dgram#bind()
13:24:17  <lanceball>e.g. https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/lib/dgram.js#L153
13:24:47  <lanceball>it appears that uv_udp_bind is a blocking call - but I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly
13:25:04  <lanceball>the docs say "libuv provides non-blocking UDP support via the uv_udp_t (for receiving) and uv_udp_send_t (for sending) structures and related functions"
13:25:45  <lanceball>but nothing about uv_udp_bind - and from my (admittedly naive) reading it looks like bind blocks
13:25:55  <lanceball>is that the case?
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13:31:09  <indutny>lanceball: yeah, it is
13:31:19  <lanceball>it's blocking?
13:31:20  <indutny>lanceball: but this is cheap
13:31:24  <indutny>yep
13:31:33  <lanceball>ok
13:31:38  <lanceball>thanks for clarifying
13:31:38  <indutny>this isn't really implying any networking
13:31:40  <indutny>np
13:31:41  <indutny>you are welcome
13:31:48  <lanceball>yeah - just that netty does it async
13:31:58  <lanceball>and node's dgram.js assumes it's sync
13:32:14  <lanceball>and I'm trying to replace node.js process.binding()s with JVM based ones
13:32:26  <lanceball>so have to figure out how to wrestle netty into blocking this :)
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13:49:47  <indutny>lanceball: heh
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14:27:34  <saghul>lanceball: you mean it sets the socket nonblocking and calls bind when it's writable?
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14:28:42  <lanceball>yes
14:29:02  <saghul>I don't see any reference to bind being blocking
14:32:43  <saghul>this never returns EINPROGRESS or EWOULDBLOCK: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/net/ipv4/af_inet.c#L425
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14:37:32  <lanceball>saghul: sorry - let me clarify - currently in netty, when you call Bootstrap#bind() to bind a UDP socket, this action is executed on the event loop thread just like all of the other non-blocking I/O calls netty provides - whether or not the actual system call is a blocking call. Netty just schedules this system call along with the bookkeeping/channel preparation that is required for the socket on the event loop, in effect making it non-blockin
14:37:32  <lanceball>g. So, while it's quite likely that when Bootstrap#bind returns, the actual system call has completed, it's also possible that this action was scheduled on the event loop to occur at some point in the not-too-distant future. So I cannot be certain that the socket has been bound by the time the call to Bootstrap#bind has returned
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14:44:55  <saghul>lanceball: aha, I see
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17:20:39  <kkaefer_>is it safe to run uv_async_init() on a loop that is being run in a different thread?
17:20:57  <kkaefer_>i.e. can I attach a new async handle to a loop from another thread?
17:21:42  <creationix>kkaefer_: I don’t remember, but if nobody here knows, try asking in #libuv, especially when europe is awake
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17:22:01  <kkaefer_>I'm in europe and I'm awake :P
17:22:03  <creationix>this is #libuv!
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17:22:13  <kkaefer>also that
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17:23:21  <creationix>kkaefer: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs/n5cvMG8KgwA
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17:25:38  <rendar>creationix: lol, hey man
17:25:50  <creationix>rendar: what’s up
17:26:20  <rendar>nm, just playing around with libuv :)
17:26:22  <kkaefer>mh, thanks, so that looks like a no
17:26:47  <creationix>one of these days, I should actuall start on dukluv.io
17:27:07  <creationix>I just started at Rackspace where part of my day job is working on luvit and luv
17:27:12  <creationix>so my luv bindings should be getting some love
17:27:24  <creationix>*luv = libuv to lua
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17:29:41  <creationix>kkaefer: I think that’s still accurate. Bert and ben don’t appear to be on irc at the moment. I have no clue personally, just remembered that conversation from last year
17:30:05  <kkaefer>I looked at the code and there seems to be no locking, so that assumption seems correct
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17:36:13  <kkaefer>is there any precedence on embedding a library that uses libuv internally into another program that uses libuv (like node.js)
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17:37:28  <creationix>kkaefer: I’ve done something kinda like that
17:37:50  <creationix>I write node and luvit addons that bind to the internal libuv code and expose new methods to the scripting language
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17:38:36  <creationix>for example, luvit has it’s own lua bindings for libuv, but the “luv” project is another set of libuv bindings for lua. I dlopen the luv bindings as an external library and it plays nice with the built-in libuv
17:38:53  <creationix>(but then I’m linking against the internal libuv and luvit’s libuv headers when building)
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17:40:28  <creationix>kkaefer: if this helps any https://github.com/luvit/luv/blob/master/Makefile.luvit
17:41:06  <kkaefer>well, I'm mostly concerned about the internals, like uv_default_loop()
17:41:32  <creationix>right, in my case I’m using uv_default_loop() in luvit and also using it in the external library. They both end up using the same event loop
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17:41:44  <creationix>I can use uv_run from either side and it will work
17:41:44  <kkaefer>I assume that at least one library may not use/run the default loop
17:42:02  <creationix>if you block on both sides it won’t hurt anything, one just will block before the other gets a chance
17:42:40  <creationix>I made a node addon just for this in fact https://github.com/creationix/uvrun
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18:17:22  <creationix>does anyone know when the v0.12.x branch of libuv will be tagged? Are we waiting on the 0.12.x release of node?
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19:51:16  <MI6>joyent/libuv: piscisaureus created branch issue-1426 - http://git.io/jFSBBg
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22:32:38  <saghul>creationix: very soon, basically just some API docs are missing, but we are working on it
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22:37:02  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé master * fabafd6 : windows: make sure sockets and handles are reset on close (+1 more commits) - http://git.io/WPRdsA
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23:01:28  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé issue-1426 * 0228409 : WIP: test - http://git.io/FGUA6w
23:02:30  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé issue-1426 * b853b83 : WIP: test - http://git.io/dDbKig
23:03:17  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé issue-1426 * 7229d81 : WIP: test - http://git.io/sUdMbw
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23:40:42  <a_le>is there a json parser in C or C++ that plays well with the asynchronous model from libuv?
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