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11:37:48  <txdv>topic was set a year ago
11:37:48  <txdv>:D
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14:36:25  <tjfontaine>release day?
14:36:38  <tjfontaine>for 0.8, 10, and then 0.11 we hopes
14:40:26  <tjfontaine>indutny, saghul: can we do a release of libuv 0.11 to integrate into node?
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14:47:05  <saghul>tjfontaine: sure
14:50:14  <tjfontaine>you or me? :)
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14:59:53  <saghul>tjfontaine: go ahead :-)
15:00:39  <tjfontaine>k :)
15:04:22  <MI6>joyent/libuv: tjfontaine created tag v0.11.29 - http://git.io/9XTrAA
15:04:24  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Timothy J Fontaine master * a4f0350 : Now working on v0.11.30 (+1 more commits) - http://git.io/zMneAA
15:05:26  <MI6>joyent/node: tjfontaine created branch v0.10.31-release - http://git.io/OH26tA
15:05:43  <tjfontaine>waiting on some windows updates to finish before I can do the 0.10.31 release
15:06:05  <tjfontaine>going to update libuv in v0.12 in the mean time
15:07:06  <tjfontaine>saghul: are you familiar with this test failure on osx? http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/libuv-master-gyp/DESTCPU=ia32,label=osx/838/tapTestReport/test.tap-38/
15:10:15  <tjfontaine>hrm shit I wanted to do an npm update
15:10:43  <tjfontaine>I'll recut that v0.10.31 branch
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15:18:25  <MI6>joyent/node: Timothy J Fontaine v0.10 * 6a11bfe : npm: Update to v1.4.23 - http://git.io/3etm1w
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15:20:59  <tjfontaine>saghul: did that readdir change the interface for node? I thought it was purely additive
15:21:12  <tjfontaine>or does the old readdir return the new dirent
15:21:25  <saghul>tjfontaine: yes it does
15:22:03  <saghul>tjfontaine: re the failure on OSX: yes, it's a blocker for next libuv, trevnorris is going to look into it, or yours trylly if he has no time
15:22:49  <saghul>tjfontaine: you can call uv_fs_readdir_next until exhaustion now, and build the list of names as before
15:23:13  <tjfontaine>nod
15:23:16  <saghul>TODO: expose type, make it more streaming-like or whatever
15:23:48  <tjfontaine>ya I'm not sure if we can do that in time for 0.12, it's a little late to figure out what the right new api is
15:24:04  <tjfontaine>I can make it backwards compat without issue
15:24:21  <saghul>yeah, I'd go for that atm
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15:34:49  <saghul>tjfontaine: since you are releasing 0.8 as well, do you have plans to pull that android support PR?
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15:43:04  <tjfontaine>saghul: I suppose I may
15:44:50  <saghul>tjfontaine: then it also needs to be pulled in libuv
15:45:25  <saghul>I'm kind of against it, though not very strongly if someone else does it :-)
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16:37:44  <nathan7>Hey saghul, how's life?
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16:42:11  <saghul>nathan7: ohai! life is good, can't complain! how about you?
16:44:07  <nathan7>saghul: I'm in France with the Vigour dev team
16:45:01  <saghul>oh! so you swapped scotch for wine then? :-)
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17:02:51  <chrisdickinson>tjfontaine: mind if i run the hapi tests against 10.31 before it goes out?
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17:05:28  <trevnorris>saghul: which failure?
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17:53:22  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: please and thank you
17:53:59  <tjfontaine>saghul: the android folks all have to build themselves anyway, so I think it's not unreasonable for htem to do manage on their own
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18:05:00  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: do you need binaries?
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18:11:15  <chrisdickinson>tjfontaine: I checked on OSX (with a locally built v0.10.31) and things seem to be working fine there; my only windows box is XP so I'm not sure how many false positives that'll introduce
18:11:30  <chrisdickinson>but if you have a windows binary i'd be totally willing to give it ago
18:11:32  <tjfontaine>compare against 0.10.29 I guess
18:11:35  <chrisdickinson>s/ago/a go/g
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18:13:33  <tjfontaine>well, I can do the next steps which will kinda drop everything into place, all that will be missing is the blog/email/tweet/website update
18:15:12  <tjfontaine>indutny, saghul: so guys, I actually am reviewing the interface for uv_fs_readdir_next now -- I presumed we were finally using readdir not just tacking on scandir
18:15:32  <tjfontaine>this doesn't really do much of anything
18:15:40  <indutny>hm... actually we do not
18:15:52  <indutny>but we do allocate much less
18:15:56  <indutny>and could start doing it internally
18:16:01  <tjfontaine>but allocation is not the problem with scandir
18:16:15  <tjfontaine>the streaming readdir is needed when you're trying to list a huge directory
18:16:39  <indutny>yeah, we will do it
18:16:48  <indutny>if saghul has no arguments against it
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18:17:10  <jgi>chrisdickinson: I can help you test on Windows
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18:17:23  <chrisdickinson>jgi: rad, thanks!
18:17:51  <jgi>chrisdickinson: do you have a tests suite, or some script I can run against v0.10.31-release?
18:18:22  <jgi>chrisdickinson: I can do that on Linux too if you don’t have a Linux setup
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18:19:02  <chrisdickinson>i'm just running the hapi tests against the new node
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18:19:08  <chrisdickinson>both on v6.5.1 and master
18:19:38  <jgi>chrisdickinson: ok, so basically npm test in hapi’s repo?
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18:20:47  <chrisdickinson>I'll grab you the bash script I'm running, but yep
18:21:05  <jgi>chrisdickinson: alright cool,
18:21:22  <chrisdickinson>https://gist.github.com/chrisdickinson/d39d062b402907267ba5
18:21:35  <chrisdickinson>should be able to do `./test.sh path/to/node`
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18:22:59  <jgi>chrisdickinson: yep
18:24:32  <jgi>chrisdickinson: building, I’ll let you know when I get the tests results back
18:24:51  <jgi>chrisdickinson: do you want me to test that on Linux too?
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18:27:46  <tjfontaine>jgi, chrisdickinson: let me know when you're ready for me to do the green flag on the release
18:27:55  <jgi>tjfontaine: ok
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18:33:58  <jgi>tjfontaine, chrisdickinson: it’s going to take a few minutes, I’m having a meeting with Sam right now about https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8193
18:34:24  <tjfontaine>ok
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18:38:00  <chrisdickinson>jgi: sure!
18:38:00  <chrisdickinson>thanks!
18:38:22  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: do you need the binary I can put it in a place fo ryou? 32 or 64?
18:39:16  <tjfontaine>I'm reticent to move everything into place because people get all antsy when they see it
18:39:26  <chrisdickinson>I think jgi is testing windows and linux
18:40:26  <tjfontaine>mk
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18:47:54  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: is --abort-on-uncaught-exception turned on by default in v0.12?
18:48:08  <tjfontaine>no, it could be as a compile time option
18:48:54  <tjfontaine>we do now (in 0.10 and later) properly abort() instead of exit(5)
18:48:56  <tjfontaine>in some casees
18:48:59  <tjfontaine>*cases
18:49:08  <tjfontaine>so fatal error should always abort
18:49:34  <tjfontaine>so for his particular use case of running out of memory the flag isn't necessary
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19:09:35  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: ok, yeah. I just barely noticed that:
19:09:35  <trevnorris>> var a = []; for (;;) a.push(Math.random());
19:09:35  <trevnorris>will core dump
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19:18:08  <jgi>tjfontaine, chrisdickinson: back from my call with Sam, I’ll just write down what came out of the discussion so that I don’t forget it, and I’ll be right back at testing hapi :)
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19:29:35  <tjfontaine>jgi: cool, thanks
19:30:03  <tjfontaine>trevnorris: well it will abort, hopefully people will have their environments configured appropriately
19:30:52  <saghul>indutny: saghul has no arguments against it :-)
19:31:09  <tjfontaine>I filed issues on them
19:32:07  <jgi>chrisdickinson: https://gist.github.com/misterdjules/61d4ed2f8b54be2736d3
19:32:50  <tjfontaine>jgi: test with 0.10.29 as well?
19:32:55  <chrisdickinson>hah, wow
19:33:18  <jgi>tjfontaine: yes, I’m going to do that too
19:33:24  <jgi>chrisdickinson: anything suspicious?
19:33:35  <tjfontaine>also something somewhere should be using os.EOL :)
19:33:47  <chrisdickinson>hah, yes :)
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19:34:02  <chrisdickinson>nothing too suspicious, offhand
19:34:19  <chrisdickinson>(though, I should reverse the list of tags to test)
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19:42:01  <jgi>chrisdickinson: all tests pass on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04)
19:42:06  <chrisdickinson>awesome!
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19:43:16  <jgi>chrisdickinson: next step: testing 0.10.29 on Windows
19:43:53  <chrisdickinson>jgi: most important versions to test out of the range are v6.5.1 and master; I should have ordered the tags reverse chronologically :)
19:43:55  <chrisdickinson>and thanks again!
19:44:11  <jgi>chrisdickinson: ok
19:44:35  <chrisdickinson>it'd be cool if we could get this (& a few other prominent frameworks) hooked up to node CI
19:46:07  <tjfontaine>sure
19:46:15  <tjfontaine>did I get you an account?
19:47:00  <tjfontaine>seems not
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19:49:30  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: for julien I just cloned the master branch build, and then pointed it at his personal github branch
19:49:48  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: your account gives full control, so use wisely :)
19:50:04  <chrisdickinson>i will tread carefully!
19:50:33  <tjfontaine>I had experimented before with downstream tests
19:52:11  <tjfontaine>ideally we'd do it as a matrix, I think, ./configure --prefix=./tmp && make -j4 && make install && mkdir tmp2 && cd tmp2 && export PATH=../tmp/bin:$PATH && git clone $project && cd $project && npm install && npm test
19:52:31  <tjfontaine>[hopefully they all support just tap output as well]
19:52:38  <tjfontaine>npm test | tee $project.tap
19:53:20  <jgi>chrisdickinson: https://gist.github.com/misterdjules/8cdf87279d1a1ac0be14
19:53:39  <jgi>chrisdickinson: I changed your script so that it doesn’t exist as soon as a tests suite fails
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19:54:03  <jgi>chrisdickinson: should I run it with this change for v0.10.31-release too?
19:54:16  <tjfontaine>please, does lab have tap output?
19:54:37  <tjfontaine>should change the test invocation to be -r tap
19:55:10  <tjfontaine>or teach it to respect an environment variable :)
19:59:58  <chrisdickinson>jgi: sure, that would be great
20:00:04  <jgi>chrisdickinson: ok
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20:07:02  <jgi>chrisdickinson: I just deleted the Gists with the tests results, I’m sending updated tests results in tap format by e-mail.
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20:07:09  <chrisdickinson>thanks!
20:07:55  <tjfontaine>ya programmable output :)
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20:16:24  <jgi>chrisdickinson: sent
20:16:37  <tjfontaine>jgi: any major differences between 0.10.29 and 0.10.31?
20:17:52  <jgi>tjfontaine: the tap output seems to put all tests results on the same line, which makes diffing a bit difficult
20:18:10  <tjfontaine>jgi: because it's also not using os.EOL?
20:18:48  <tjfontaine>https://github.com/hapijs/lab/blob/master/lib/reporters/tap.js
20:18:53  <tjfontaine>littered with '\n'
20:19:03  <jgi>:)
20:20:40  <jgi>tjfontaine, chrisdickinson: I have to go for lunch now, let me know if you can interpret the results in any way without fixing lab on Windows. If you can’t, I’ll fix it after lunch.
20:20:56  <tjfontaine>jgi: ok
20:21:09  <tjfontaine>I'll wait to hear from chrisdickinson but my inclination is to just go live with it
20:21:23  <tjfontaine>doesn't seem to be horribly broken and not a lot changed
20:21:51  <jgi>tjfontaine: ok
20:21:59  <jgi>alright I’m off for lunch, see you in a bit
20:22:04  <tjfontaine>and gets the timer issue off our backs
20:22:11  <tjfontaine>jgi: enjoy
20:22:24  <jgi>thanks!
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20:46:32  <chrisdickinson>jgi: tjfontaine: the only thing i see is "Server Load rejects request due to high heap load" fails on 6.5.1 + node 10.31 but not on 10.29
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21:34:59  <jgi>chrisdickinson: did you have some time to take a look at the results?
21:35:25  <chrisdickinson>yep, the only thing i saw was "Server Load rejects request due to high heap load" fails on 6.5.1 + node 10.31 but not on 10.29
21:35:31  <chrisdickinson>I don't think that's a blocker, offhand
21:39:03  <jgi>chrisdickinson: ok
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22:04:33  <tjfontaine>jgi: can you rerun just that test?
22:04:39  <tjfontaine>to see if it's transient?
22:04:46  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: that doesn't fail locally for you?
22:04:58  <chrisdickinson>it looks like a windows only error
22:05:13  <tjfontaine>ok
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22:09:20  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: if you're happy I'm happy :)
22:10:09  <chrisdickinson>+1, I think it's good to go, osx and linux are passing and there's too much noise from hapi tests on windows
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22:10:31  <tjfontaine>yup ok
22:12:10  <MI6>joyent/node: tjfontaine created tag v0.10.31 - http://git.io/Pvq7Rg
22:12:33  <MI6>joyent/node: Timothy J Fontaine v0.10 * adf2cfd : Now working on 0.10.32 (+2 more commits) - http://git.io/YzuARg
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22:16:54  <jgi>tjfontaine,chrisdickinson: awesome thanks :)
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22:23:39  <tjfontaine>ok that is live.
22:24:49  <jgi>tjfontaine: thank you
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22:46:46  <Domenic>streams/ssl people (indutny and chrisdickinson I guess?): I'm curious how Node handles this tradeoff with its TLS streams. https://github.com/whatwg/streams/issues/171
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23:04:04  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: why don't we return the request object for things like fs.stat calls?
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23:05:12  <trevnorris>ugh, and why isn't the context of fs callback the same as the request object?
23:05:16  <trevnorris>such a PITA
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23:18:44  <trevnorris>tjfontaine: have a rough ETA on when I can merge https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/8110 ?
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23:57:29  <chrisdickinson>Domenic: good question! I can't really speak to the TLS machinery too much, but the closest node streams have to a concept of "desired chunk size" is the corking / uncorking stuff in streams3
23:57:56  <chrisdickinson>but that's more of a mechanism that you *could* use to implement that flushing-to-underlying-resource strategy