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00:27:58  <LeftWing>chrisdickinson: Enjoying your blog post! Slight nit -- I have no idea what I said at the time, but I meant "provenance", rather than "providence"!
00:29:36  <othiym23>providence will provide a fix to chrisdickinson's post, LeftWing
00:31:05  <LeftWing>Ha.
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03:34:35  <chrisdickinson>ah! thanks. I'll go fix that now :)
03:34:51  <chrisdickinson>fixed.
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03:59:44  <chrisdickinson>indutny: hey, sorry for the trouble. i'm seeing that the 0755 file mode was introduced to _stream_readable as of 23d92ec88e0dfe4c2224a2ec4a67ae1ca2bd448d
04:00:23  <chrisdickinson>(https://github.com/joyent/node/commit/23d92ec88e0dfe4c2224a2ec4a67ae1ca2bd448d)
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04:01:39  <chrisdickinson>(it looks like the file mode is messed up on v0.10 as well: https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/v0.10/lib/_stream_readable.js)
04:03:35  <tjfontaine>sigh :/
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04:10:21  <chrisdickinson>tjfontaine: have you seen errors like these on v0.10? https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7917#issuecomment-48987922
04:10:32  <chrisdickinson>rather, the v0.10 branch.
04:16:06  <tjfontaine>yes unfortunately, presumably you're on mavericks?
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04:25:57  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: ya, that happens because of the curl command sucking, in 0.11 we use the openssl s_client to work around that
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07:25:58  <indutny>chrisdickinson: heya
07:26:03  <chrisdickinson>hey!
07:26:09  <indutny>chrisdickinson: so...
07:26:15  <indutny>chrisdickinson: I'm ok with v0.10
07:26:22  <indutny>chrisdickinson: but why does it fail on other tests in master?
07:26:28  <indutny>was just bad merge on my side?
07:26:42  <chrisdickinson>oh, it shouldn't apply to master -- just v0.10
07:27:02  <chrisdickinson>enough of the underlying machinery was changed in master / v0.11 that the bug doesn't appear there
07:30:52  <indutny>aaah
07:30:53  <indutny>ok
07:31:04  <indutny>Sorry it was a plain mistake of me
07:31:05  <indutny>then
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07:32:12  <chrisdickinson>I should have made that more apparent in the PR, sorry -- the test was written so that it works against both master and v0.10, but the patch to _stream_readable is v0.10 only
07:35:46  <indutny>yeah, it is ok
07:35:50  <indutny>sorry, need to reboot
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08:38:32  <MI6>joyent/node: Chris Dickinson v0.10 * a96d660 : stream2: flush extant data on read of ended stream - http://git.io/f-XgcA
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14:08:39  <bradleymeck>are there any 0.12 blockers I might be able to pick up?
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18:19:00  <jcrugzz>trevnorris: let me know when you have some time. Wanted to talk about being able to cap the memory node tries to use (specifically on small machines)
18:22:33  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: in which capacity
18:23:25  <tjfontaine>most (but not all) allocations notify v8, so you can use the default tunables to do the most amount of your management in that regard
18:23:32  <jcrugzz>tjfontaine: trying to prevent ENOMEMs on our 256mb machines at nodejitsu. customers end up having memory leaks and that go out of bounds of their available memory which kills the process restarter
18:25:06  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: ideally you grab the core for that process, then do: 'echo "::load v8;::findjsobjects" | mdb core | sendmail customer@customer' -- or make something like the joyent portal report that does the same thing with manta and makes an html report
18:25:46  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: but trimming down how much the vm is allowed to use won't fix the problem with users having memory leaks
18:26:04  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: by adjusting it you can just convince the gc to run more often
18:26:45  <jcrugzz>tjfontaine: yes, just trying to limit the amount of cases of the problem ;), i already have a mechanism to fix the issue when it happens.
18:27:50  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: `node --v8-options | grep max` are the tunables you will be interested in, space_size being the most interesting of them for this particular problem
18:28:03  <jcrugzz>tjfontaine: awesome, thanks
18:28:28  <tjfontaine>jcrugzz: but seriously, the value add of doing an automatic mdb report for them is a huge benefit
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18:31:31  <jcrugzz>tjfontaine: yea i feel you there, the educational value is huge
18:34:27  <chrisdickinson>hey -- I had a question re: allowing JS the decision to accept/close incoming TCP requests: it looks like the connecting socket fd isn't available until a uv_accept call against the server -- so sockets must always be accepted to be closed. is this a correct assessment?
18:35:34  <robertkowalski>tjfontaine: i wrote the benchmarks, 2 times - the first one had another codepath, but is still interesting. at one benchmark (type: nested) i am not sure if i understood you right
18:36:50  <robertkowalski>tjfontaine: the repo is at https://github.com/robertkowalski/require-benchmark -- and i posted my results to: https://github.com/joyent/node/pull/7094
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18:56:48  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: yup, there is no fd until someone calls accept, and you may need to call accept many times (or to some hwm for instance) until it returns EAGAIN
18:57:17  <tjfontaine>robertkowalski: thanks I will provide some feedback
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18:58:42  <chrisdickinson>tjfontaine: ah, interesting. if they're left unaccepted, do they remain in the kernel queue or on the server struct?
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18:59:31  <chrisdickinson>(I'm assuming they stay in the kernel queue, but just want to make sure)
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19:00:05  <tjfontaine>chrisdickinson: if you don't accept they are counted against the backlog limit in the kernel
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19:01:38  <chrisdickinson>cool. so, if js can't read any more sockets at the moment, it'll leave them in the queue until the writable "drains" (sockets leave js-land) and attempts to grab another handful of sockets from C++-land
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19:03:25  <chrisdickinson>this makes a lot more sense :) thanks
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20:16:06  <robertkowalski>tjfontaine: cool! thanks for your time, i really appreciate that. at nodeconf we can port the suite to dtrace together :)
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20:39:28  <tjfontaine>:P
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