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14:21:46  <roxlu>hi
14:21:57  <roxlu>indutny: are you around?
14:31:33  <indutny>hey
14:31:33  <indutny>yes
14:31:55  <roxlu>hi
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14:32:57  <roxlu>I was wondering, I regurlarly compile libuv on mac/linux/win and although it works okay compiling is never just executing a compile command... the gyp solution is a bit buggy e.g. when creating libraries for vs2010, vs2012, 32/64, debug/release
14:33:19  <roxlu>with cmake this is piece of cake, and it eases compiling the library so much
14:33:34  <roxlu>no need to install gyp, (and work around the python2/python3 issues)
14:33:49  <roxlu>.. therefore I was wondering, if I create a cmakelists.txt file, could it be added to the repository?
14:33:50  <indutny>well
14:33:57  <indutny>hm...
14:34:10  <roxlu>it would make compiling so much more fun ^.^
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14:36:24  <roxlu>indutny: you know cmake?
14:36:37  <indutny>honestly not that much
14:36:39  <indutny>:)
14:36:46  <indutny>but if you wish - you could submit a PR
14:36:49  <indutny>we'll figure it out
14:36:50  <indutny>later
14:37:59  <roxlu>it's similar to makefiles but it just works really well cross platform; and it figures out all windows development issues (like having multiple platform sdks, visual studios).
14:38:13  <roxlu>lots of libraries are switching, even some GNU ones recently :)
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14:54:57  <indutny>well
14:55:04  <indutny>gyp is quite good too
14:55:08  <indutny>at dependencies
14:55:18  <Kakera>there was a pr for cmake a while ago but it was rejected
14:55:50  <roxlu>indutny: the current gyp files for libuv dont' work on windows when you want to create 32/64 debug/release vs2010/vs2012 builds
14:56:07  <indutny>hm...
14:56:09  <roxlu>I think the build script even ignores the shared library option for debug builds
14:56:09  <indutny>why?
14:56:11  <indutny>it does work
14:56:22  <indutny>I run it recently
14:56:23  <roxlu>have you validated that recently?
14:56:24  <roxlu>oh
14:56:25  <roxlu>haha
14:56:30  <indutny>yeah
14:56:33  <indutny>vcbuidlbat
14:56:35  <roxlu>can you tell me what command you used?
14:56:35  <indutny>vcbuilld.bat
14:56:36  <Kakera>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/212
14:56:36  <indutny>right?
14:56:56  <roxlu>indutny: if I want a vs2012, debug dll, what command did you use?
14:57:03  <indutny>I have no idea
14:57:04  <indutny>:)
14:57:08  <roxlu>exactly : )
14:57:15  <roxlu>it doesn't work :)
14:57:20  <indutny>well
14:57:24  <indutny>I just don't know about it
14:57:29  <indutny>also
14:57:36  <indutny>we have autoconf/automake files in master
14:57:43  <indutny>does it not work too?
14:57:56  <roxlu>well I spent some time looking at the code for gyp, and they simply ignore some parameters
14:58:23  <roxlu>autoconf/automake with VS2010/12? I think you refer to cygwin/mingw
14:59:27  <roxlu>it's one file which needs to be added to libuv and it would ease cross compiling so much
15:01:32  <roxlu>I can see that adding something which is bad for the quality of libuv would be a problem, but this would make libuv only better
15:03:04  <Kakera>`vcbuild.bat debug` doesn't work for you?
15:03:29  <Kakera>ah, you want shared
15:03:34  <roxlu>Kakera: I want 2 different builds, a VS2010 and one using VS2012 compiler
15:03:44  <roxlu>Kakera: yeah and dll
15:03:53  <roxlu>heh and 32/64bit
15:04:47  <roxlu>I can create a release dll, but not debug dll
15:05:05  <Kakera>`vcbuild.bat debug shared` works for me
15:05:21  <roxlu>how do you target vs2010/vs2012?
15:05:34  <roxlu>and 32/64 bit ?
15:06:27  <Kakera>set GYP_MSVS_VERSION to target a specific vs version
15:06:59  <roxlu>e.g. GYP_MSVS_VERSION=2012 ?
15:07:05  <Kakera>yes
15:07:08  <roxlu>(there are different 2012 versions too)
15:07:19  <roxlu>Express, Desktop, Professional
15:07:28  <Kakera>the compiler is the same
15:07:34  <roxlu>no
15:07:44  <roxlu>express can't create 64bit
15:07:52  <roxlu>I use the platform sdk to create 64bit
15:08:06  <roxlu>for which I have 4 different versions
15:09:10  <Kakera>how would you target 32/64 bit with cmake?
15:09:41  <roxlu>you simply say: -G "Visual Studio 2011 Win64" and it find the correct compiler + tests if it really is 64 bit
15:09:51  <roxlu>cmake does that for you
15:11:22  <Kakera>does `vcbuild.bat debug shared x64` not work for you?
15:11:36  <roxlu>I'll try it
15:11:55  <roxlu>no
15:12:24  <Kakera>what happens then?
15:12:50  <roxlu>https://gist.github.com/roxlu/7ae22a253a8fe9d15826
15:14:01  <roxlu>gyp has problems with multiple installs of VS I think
15:14:08  <Kakera>do you have VS2013 installed?
15:14:16  <roxlu>no
15:14:30  <roxlu>vs2010, vs2012
15:21:13  <Kakera>but does it work if you open uv.sln and build it manually?
15:21:29  <roxlu>yeah I just tested that and that works for vs2012 only
15:25:17  <indutny>sorry, was afk
15:25:38  <indutny>roxlu: perhaps we could fix gyp to make it not ignore params
15:25:48  <indutny>I'm pretty sure that this could be solved on a configuration level
15:25:54  <indutny>if not - we could submit patch to the up-stream
15:26:18  <Kakera>what do you mean it works for vs2012 only?
15:26:34  <roxlu>yeah, I'll try to get my cmakelists.txt working and check if it produces similar libs
15:26:50  <roxlu>Kakera: the created uv.sln cannot be openend by vs2010
15:27:03  <Kakera>well sure, because you generated a vs2012 solution
15:27:28  <Kakera>use GYP_MSVS_VERSION=2010
15:27:56  <Kakera>I think vcbuild.bat overrides it though so use gyp_uv directly
15:28:44  <roxlu>Kakera: how would I execute gyp_uv directly? (what commands I mean)
15:29:19  <Kakera>gyp_uv.py -Dtarget_arch=x64 -Dlibrary=shared_library
15:30:08  <roxlu>can gyp_uv.py also directly compile ?
15:30:33  <roxlu>(and select the correct msbuild.exe for me? .. as that's one of the issues with multiple compilers)
15:32:15  <Kakera>no, it only generates project files
15:33:03  <Kakera>I'm trying to figure out why vcbuild.bat fails to build
15:33:31  <roxlu>I think because I uses a msbuild.exe which is not the correct one
15:34:03  <roxlu>that's the great thing about cmake, it will make sure it uses the correct compilers + env. variables for you
15:35:09  <Kakera>cmake doesn't build itself either
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15:35:27  <roxlu>I didn't mean to say that.
15:35:53  <roxlu>it makes sure it builds correctly though, even with different compilers/architectures/build-types
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15:36:40  <roxlu>you can use it to copy headers/dll/libs to an install dir on windows too (which is not working on windows now with gyp)
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15:38:43  <indutny>well
15:38:56  <indutny>ok
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15:42:49  <Kakera>hah
15:43:04  <Kakera>set target_arch=x64&set platform=amd64&set vs_toolset=x64&goto arg-ok
15:43:08  <Kakera>this line is wrong
15:43:15  <Kakera>platform should be x64, not amd64
15:45:24  <Kakera>roxlu: try fixing it in vcbuild.bat and run `vcbuild.bat debug shared x64` again
15:45:50  <roxlu>Kakera: I just got my cmake file working which creates 32/64 debug/release vs2010/vs2010 now
15:46:04  <roxlu>+ installs the dll/lib/headers to a install dir I tell it to
15:47:41  <roxlu>Kakera: even if that would work, it means that it will still be less convenient that cmake
15:49:04  <Kakera>roxlu: personally I think that an "INSTALL" project that copies files somewhere when you build it is ugly and not convenient at all
15:49:34  <roxlu>Kakera: at least let it be a feature .. that one can use or ignore
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15:51:12  <Kakera>too many features isn't a good thing either, especially when they overlap
15:51:19  <roxlu>Just w/o any prejudice, would it be way nicer to have 1 build file which works on all major platforms w/o setting any environment vars etc.. (which can do everything all other build systems can)
15:51:33  <indutny>if gyp works
15:51:37  <indutny>there is no need in cmake
15:51:43  <indutny>and I'm pretty sure that it works now :)
15:51:52  <roxlu>did you just update the repos?
15:51:56  <indutny>nope
15:52:04  <roxlu>then it doesn't work
15:52:06  <indutny>was following your conversation for a bit
15:52:11  <indutny>well, it could be configured
15:52:12  <indutny>right?
15:52:27  <Kakera>roxlu: maybe you would like to contribute a patch that lets you set the VS version in vcbuild instead
15:52:30  <roxlu>it will still not allow me to build vs2010/12 32/64 static/shared libs
15:52:35  <indutny>Kakera: +1
15:53:04  <roxlu>I can contribute my cmake file :)
15:53:13  <roxlu>But I guess there is no interest in that
15:53:19  <indutny>not right now
15:53:26  <indutny>I don't really like how it manages dependencies
15:53:30  <indutny>and we already have autoconf
15:53:35  <indutny>two build systems are enough :)
15:53:42  <roxlu>indutny: even if all other build systems will work, why not just add it for people who like to use it?
15:53:51  <indutny>because I don't want to maintain it
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15:53:54  <indutny>add tests to it
15:54:03  <indutny>if you could write a script that will generate it from .gyp
15:54:05  <roxlu>I don't mind maintaining it ?
15:54:53  <roxlu>indutny: I think once we have a good cmake file, it will be no work at all to maintain it .. libuv is pretty static when it comes to changes in the build files
15:55:18  <roxlu>I use libuv for a couple of years already; pretty regurlarly too
15:59:07  <Kakera>a couple of years is a lot for a project that hasn't existed for 3 years
15:59:41  <roxlu>Kakera: that's correct
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16:02:18  <indutny>no, it isn't
16:02:23  <indutny>I usually add test
16:02:25  <indutny>tests
16:02:35  <indutny>this is a part of my daily routine
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16:05:13  <indutny>yes
16:06:13  <roxlu>cmake has special features for (automatated/non-auto.) tests.. but if you don't want those you can add the source to cmake OR even let it detect sources automatically
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