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07:47:05  <hueniverse>othiym23: yt?
07:48:35  <groundwater>hueniverse: othiym23 is away from laptop
07:48:38  <groundwater>and on vacation
07:51:19  <hueniverse>nice!
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10:00:20  <indutny>heya
10:00:24  <indutny>how are you?
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10:35:43  <SquirrelCZECH>nice
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10:46:33  <MI6>joyent/libuv: indutny created branch feature/pipe-pending-handles - http://git.io/O-F2eg
10:48:53  <MI6>nodejs-v0.10: #1678 UNSTABLE smartos-ia32 (5/606) osx-ia32 (2/606) linux-ia32 (3/606) osx-x64 (2/606) linux-x64 (2/606) smartos-x64 (5/606) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-v0.10/1678/
10:49:47  <bentkus>another branch
10:49:50  <bentkus>whyyy
10:52:37  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Fedor Indutny feature/pipe-pending-handles * 57275e2 : api tweak - http://git.io/hPoGuQ
10:52:59  <indutny>bentkus: there is reason for this :)
10:53:48  <rendar>indutny: cool, is that about by caching pipes' fds instead of closing and creating new ones?
10:55:22  <bentkus>make sure to close it
10:56:04  <indutny>rendar: no
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10:58:42  <indutny>rendar: it's about systems where ipc pipe can receive multiple fds in one read
10:58:46  <indutny>rendar: i.e. smartos
10:58:47  <indutny>:D
10:59:13  <rendar>oh
10:59:14  <rendar>:)
11:00:37  <rendar>hmm ipc pipe can receive multiple fds in one read? you do multiple writings in the same pipe fd, and with a read you "download" from the kernel all of those multiple writings in a shot?
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11:01:20  <ToXedVIrus>a
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11:02:37  <bentkus>its to check if a handle was sent or not
11:02:57  <bentkus>because you need to accept the handle with uv_accept on an already initiated struct
11:03:06  <bentkus>so naturally he also added some guessing mechanism
11:04:09  <rendar>hmm
11:04:33  <rendar>uv_accept is needed with handles of pipes?
11:05:31  <bentkus>test-ipc.c:175
11:05:34  <bentkus>yeah
11:06:07  <rendar>hmm, i didn't know this, i always used pipes with pipe(2), which you pass 2 fds, and that creates the pipe :)
11:06:13  <rendar>(in unix)
11:06:37  <bentkus>its about passing tcp fd ids and stuff
11:07:00  <rendar>where i can read more about this?
11:07:24  <bentkus>indutny: what does that pl accomplish? because the read2 callback has already a field which indicates that there is a file descriptor to pull or not
11:08:31  <bentkus>i just looked it up in the example test-ipc.c:175
11:08:36  <bentkus>i dont think there is much to read about it
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11:10:16  <bentkus>unless you want to read about the underlying api
11:10:27  <bentkus>indutny: does fd passing over the pipe work on windows?
11:11:24  <indutny>rendar: sorry, I was afk
11:11:31  <indutny>rendar: it is possible on some sysystems
11:11:50  <bentkus>seems like it does
11:11:58  <indutny>bentkus: yes it does
11:12:04  <indutny>bentkus: see commit log
11:12:07  <bentkus>but the unix version of uv_accept seems to do something on UV_UDP as well
11:12:16  <indutny>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/300d44015fc5c93d73c002c97e1ea36a2c51f34d
11:12:29  <rendar>indutny: i see
11:12:30  <indutny>it's for calling uv_accept() multiple times
11:12:32  <indutny>well
11:12:38  <indutny>I'm not really sure about API yet
11:12:52  <rendar>indutny: so in some systems you do not use pipes with int fds[2]; pipe(&fds); but with a socket-like manner?
11:13:08  <indutny>huh?
11:13:12  <indutny>it is fd
11:13:14  <indutny>anyway
11:13:19  <indutny>also we're generally using socketpair()
11:13:57  <rendar>what is the main differnce? with pipe(2) you can fill up the pipe, and with socketpair() you can't?
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11:35:03  <bentkus>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1052 looks like a real bug
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11:54:22  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Alex Crichton master * f166d6d : osx: Fix a possible segfault in uv__io_poll - http://git.io/KGOBOw
11:54:36  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Alex Crichton v0.10 * f6422af : osx: Fix a possible segfault in uv__io_poll - http://git.io/V-0E6A
11:55:05  <indutny>who did the latter one?
11:55:08  <piscisaureus_>me
11:55:10  <piscisaureus_>heh
11:55:13  <indutny>haha
11:55:13  <piscisaureus_>race condition
11:55:15  <indutny>yeah
11:55:33  <indutny>I actually was thinking about pushing it to v0.10
11:55:36  <indutny>haha
11:55:49  <piscisaureus_>yeah, I landed on v0.10 and merged
11:55:53  <piscisaureus_>but my master push got rejected
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12:01:14  <bentkus>interesting
12:01:22  <bentkus>one can pass fiel descriptors over UPD on unix?
12:01:51  <bentkus>O no
12:01:56  <bentkus>one can pass udp fds
12:02:03  <bentkus>and on windows only tcp
12:11:57  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Fedor Indutny feature/pipe-pending-handles * f159f68 : better api - http://git.io/78EsFQ
12:12:00  <indutny>piscisaureus_: want to dicsuss this ^
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12:12:53  <piscisaureus_>indutny: (1) why? (2) why not make it more generic so it works for servers too?
12:13:07  <indutny>piscisaureus_: why?
12:13:13  <indutny>piscisaureus_: because it's fucking failing right now
12:13:18  <indutny>printing a error to sdterr
12:13:20  <indutny>stderr*
12:13:21  <indutny>on smartos
12:13:45  <indutny>I think you only looked at a part of the patch
12:14:00  <indutny>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1053
12:14:34  <indutny>piscisaureus_: it's about multiple fds coming in one read on some platforms
12:14:39  <indutny>piscisaureus_: on ipc pipe
12:15:33  <piscisaureus_>indutny: how can multiple FDs arrive in one recvmsg?
12:15:41  <indutny>piscisaureus_: you ask me :)
12:15:44  <indutny>wel
12:15:53  <indutny>that just happens on smartos
12:15:58  <indutny>i think it coalesces them
12:16:05  <piscisaureus_>fucking smartos, who uses that anyway
12:16:10  <indutny>haha
12:16:12  <indutny>I do
12:16:15  <piscisaureus_>so - i'd probably not add apis
12:16:40  <piscisaureus_>just call alloc_cb with suggested_size = not so much
12:16:52  <piscisaureus_>and then immediately pass that back to the user with the extra fd
12:16:57  <indutny>piscisaureus_: it won't add APIs
12:16:58  <piscisaureus_>you could also change the api
12:17:04  <indutny>aah
12:17:07  <piscisaureus_>so it passes in an extra argument
12:17:13  <indutny>and what's that?
12:17:21  <piscisaureus_>namely, the number of fd's :)
12:17:24  <indutny>haha
12:17:28  <indutny>well
12:17:40  <indutny>that was what I initially did
12:17:47  <indutny>but it kind of awkward
12:17:58  <indutny>why not just calling read_cb twice or more?
12:18:02  <indutny>with null buffer
12:18:10  <piscisaureus_>well, null buffer is also kind of awkward :)
12:18:11  <indutny>it's an API change too, but not that big
12:18:22  <indutny>piscisaureus_: you should not be reading from it anyway :)
12:18:24  <indutny>since nread == 0
12:18:38  <piscisaureus_>yeah
12:18:40  <piscisaureus_>I'm okay with it
12:19:16  <piscisaureus_>but you must document it
12:19:22  <indutny>I did it
12:19:23  <indutny>I think
12:19:26  <indutny>https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1053/files
12:20:28  <MI6>joyent/libuv: Fedor Indutny feature/pipe-pending-handles * 339fda6 : make uv__handle_type static again - http://git.io/80crYQ
12:20:35  <piscisaureus_>indutny: akwardness galore. Go for it :)
12:20:42  <indutny>haha
12:21:02  <indutny>piscisaureus_: well, either this way or another
12:21:07  <indutny>both looks terribly
12:21:16  <indutny>but null buffer is minor API change
12:21:36  <piscisaureus_>yeah, I'm fine with that.
12:21:39  <indutny>ok
12:21:44  <indutny>mind reviewing patch itself?
12:22:01  <piscisaureus_>well I will do it but not now... busy with other stuff
12:22:06  <piscisaureus_>also it is 4:30am here
12:22:10  <piscisaureus_>I should really go sleep
12:22:18  <indutny>oh
12:22:20  <indutny>you're in SF
12:22:20  <indutny>ok
12:22:23  <piscisaureus_>yeah
12:22:27  <piscisaureus_>flying back tomorrow
12:22:43  <indutny>nice
12:22:57  <piscisaureus_>it'd be better if ben could review it
12:23:05  <piscisaureus_>because he knows that code much better than me
12:23:17  <piscisaureus_>or brian since he fired ben and he cares about smartos
12:23:35  <indutny>hahaha
12:23:45  <indutny>I don't think that he is around
12:23:56  <indutny>I bet it could be this not only on smartos, btw
12:24:03  <indutny>SCM_RIGHTS is quite loosely defined
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15:21:25  <MI6>nodejs-master: #803 UNSTABLE smartos-x64 (8/686) osx-x64 (1/686) centos-ia32 (5/686) ubuntu-ia32 (3/686) smartos-ia32 (6/686) centos-x64 (3/686) ubuntu-x64 (1/686) http://jenkins.nodejs.org/job/nodejs-master/803/
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16:59:12  <tjfontaine>indutny: we can have LeftWing review the code you're interested in
16:59:23  <indutny>sure
16:59:25  <indutny>who is he?
16:59:28  <indutny>she?
16:59:39  <indutny>apparently he
16:59:42  <tjfontaine>it's a he, and he works with me at joyent and is a smartos guy
17:00:06  <indutny>nice
17:00:27  <indutny>tjfontaine: you mean this https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1053/files ?
17:00:42  <tjfontaine>which ever got bert all pissy
17:00:42  <indutny>LeftWing: may I ask you to look into it https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1053/files ?
17:00:46  <indutny>haha
17:00:50  <indutny>bert wasn't really pissed about it
17:01:04  <indutny>he was just talking about ben being pissed
17:01:05  <indutny>I think
17:01:06  <indutny>:D
17:01:17  <tjfontaine>well, anyway :)
17:01:18  <indutny>and I don't care
17:01:19  <indutny>anyway
17:01:40  <tjfontaine>there are plenty of people who we have access to who can help with smartos failures
17:01:45  <tjfontaine>and are quite willing to help
17:02:28  <indutny>great
17:02:29  <indutny>I see
17:04:58  <tjfontaine>they're also quite willing to give feedback on api questions, they just don't idle here generally but really want to contribute
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17:06:23  <indutny>ok
17:06:28  <indutny>I see your interest :)
17:07:31  <tjfontaine>brb shower time
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19:53:58  <indutny>tjfontaine: oh
19:54:01  <indutny>just remembered
19:54:04  <indutny>what about freebsd box?
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20:12:10  <tjfontaine>indutny: right, lemme pull it up
20:12:26  <indutny>haha
20:12:27  <indutny>thanks
20:12:40  <indutny>running bud benchmarks on a couple of beefy nodes right now
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20:19:32  <tjfontaine>indutny: the fbsd box is provisioning
20:19:36  <indutny>thank you
20:21:01  <tjfontaine>root@72.2.118.187
20:21:07  <tjfontaine>FreeBSD 4669ef34-bdc7-60a2-ecb1-875223da75fd 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jun 15 00:11:29 UTC 2013 root@freebsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JOYENT amd64
20:21:50  <indutny>thanks
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