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14:53:00  <mmalecki>bnoordhuis: ping?
14:53:24  <indutny>bnoordhuis: pong
14:53:27  <indutny>mmalecki: pang
14:53:39  <mmalecki>indutny: did I ping you?
14:53:44  <indutny>mmalecki: nope
14:54:08  <mmalecki>good, I thought I was missing something :)
14:54:17  <indutny>mmalecki: you definitely are
14:54:22  <indutny>we're always missing something
15:00:05  <deoxxa>i'm missing 24 hour convenience stores with oden :<
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15:35:13  <indutny>bnoordhuis: heya
15:35:57  <indutny>bnoordhuis: wtf, openssl is much much more slower in 0.9 than it is in 0.8
15:36:02  <indutny>i'm really suprised
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15:45:21  <indutny>yay
15:45:23  <indutny>1100 req/sec
15:45:30  <indutny>much faster than internal tls server
15:51:36  <indutny>mmalecki: ^
15:51:47  <indutny>mmalecki: wanna benchmark on some big cool servers? ;)
15:51:54  <mmalecki>indutny: sure I do
15:52:09  <mmalecki>indutny: I can provision you something, kinda busy now
15:52:43  <mmalecki>how about 80 GB and 16 cores XD ?
15:52:47  <tjfontaine>indutny: did you also compare with the openssl-asm branch?
15:52:56  <indutny>mmalecki: ahahahea
15:53:04  <indutny>tjfontaine: idk where is this branch located
15:53:05  <indutny>tjfontaine: but
15:53:09  <mmalecki>indutny: joyent won't provision that tho :(
15:53:10  <indutny>tjfontaine: node's current master is much slower
15:53:17  <tjfontaine>indutny: pretty sure it's joyent/node
15:53:20  <indutny>mmalecki: well, lets skip it
15:53:23  <mmalecki>indutny: did you fix availability?
15:53:26  <indutny>tjfontaine: it's 500 req/sec
15:53:35  <indutny>mmalecki: not really, still racey
15:53:41  <indutny>5 failures on 30000 requests
15:53:42  <indutny>should be zero
15:54:33  <indutny>but results are really good so far
15:54:46  <indutny>I like 90 msec response time
15:54:53  <indutny>when there're 100 parallel requests
15:55:02  <indutny>(and this is including handshake)
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16:15:08  <bentkus>waka waka waka
16:15:25  <indutny>bentkus: ohai
16:15:55  <indutny>bnoordhuis: txdv?
16:15:56  <indutny>oops
16:15:59  <indutny>bentkus: txdv?
16:19:45  <bentkus>indutny: yeah
16:19:54  <bentkus>just too lazy to fire up quasselclient
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17:04:03  <indutny>bnoordhuis: heya
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17:36:18  <TooTallNate>bnoordhuis: what's the "strip" command foR?
17:36:51  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: it strips symbols from executables
17:37:10  <mmalecki>so, like, function names and such
17:37:42  <TooTallNate>ya that makes sense to me
17:37:56  <mmalecki>don't use it in node build process please :)
17:38:01  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: in the context of his comment on that bug though there's not an explicit strip invoked
17:38:19  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: context https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/4051#issuecomment-8800621
17:38:46  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: my understanding is that the imported symbols just happen to be re-exported
17:38:46  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: ya so that's the confusing part :p what does linking strip and what does "strip" strip that the linking doesn't?
17:39:20  <TooTallNate>mmalecki: also, why not out of curiosity?
17:39:29  <TooTallNate>i wasn't considering it for the build btw
17:39:45  <mmalecki>TooTallNate: to get at least meaningful stack traces when node core dumps
17:39:47  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: you mean like libuv's?
17:40:37  <TooTallNate>so "strip" is like an obfuscator but the link-time striping actually removes functions and such?
17:40:41  <mmalecki>we link all of those statically, linker can strip symbols referencing static libs I think
17:40:45  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: symbols used explicitly in node are exported, if there were a feature of uv that wasn't used in node it wouldn't be linked in
17:41:43  <TooTallNate>tjfontaine: so i guess the two questions are 1) how do we force them to be exported in the executable, and 2) how much will it bloat the exe :)
17:42:12  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: well for 1 you'd have to convince them that they should, which probably depends a lot on 2 :)
17:42:38  <tjfontaine>I don't know the answer about 1 right now, I shall investigate
17:43:30  <TooTallNate>basically, if your add-on uses openssl, then installing on windows is a pain
17:43:49  <TooTallNate>cause you have to bring in some other precompiled copy of openssl
17:43:57  <TooTallNate>or copy the gyp version from the node deps
17:44:00  <TooTallNate>which is redundant
17:44:25  <tjfontaine>well node could build a library for openssl and ship that
17:45:04  <tjfontaine>and it could enforce versioning and pathing to make sure it's using the version that was shipped
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17:47:36  <tjfontaine>TooTallNate: at least on the osx ld there is:
17:47:36  <tjfontaine> -reexport-lx
17:47:36  <tjfontaine> This is the same as the -lx but specifies that the all symbols in library x should be available to clients linking to the library being created. This was previously done with a separate
17:47:40  <tjfontaine> -sub_library option.
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17:48:07  <tjfontaine>or -reexport_library
17:48:32  <TooTallNate>damn, i thought we could do it with some header files or something :p
17:49:21  <tjfontaine>well, in a more explicit fashion I suppose you could specify all the symbols you want to re-export
17:49:29  <tjfontaine>but that would be a pain to keep up to date
17:49:35  <TooTallNate>true
17:50:16  <TooTallNate>i guess that would basically be this https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/src/node_object_wrap.h#L33-34
17:50:30  <TooTallNate>which you're right, would be unmaintainable especially for openssl
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17:52:22  <tjfontaine>I'm guessing on gcc's ld --gc-sections is the offending linker flag
17:53:43  <tjfontaine>where "offending" is doing what is expected to keep binary size reasonable
18:17:22  <mmalecki>anyone familiar with timezone stuff here?
18:17:35  <mmalecki>working on a v8 patch and I find this stuff hard to wrap my head around
18:17:46  <mmalecki>basically, when we're in DST
18:18:23  <mmalecki>and I'm in GMT+1
18:18:32  <mmalecki>does it suddenly become UTC+2?
18:19:29  <mmalecki>I'm sure that UTC doesn't change at all
18:19:52  <mmalecki>actually, now that I asked that question it became clear
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19:52:14  <chilts>mmalecki: yeah, UTC never changes
19:52:56  <chilts>so everything, whatever timezone, whatever daylight savings, all map to one true UTC, then everything else is relative to that :)
19:53:31  <chilts>I find it easier to think in UTC rather than anything else, and just convert the time to the relevant one when displaying it to the user
19:57:53  <mmalecki>thanks :)
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20:05:00  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: hi
20:05:08  <piscisaureus_>hi majiec
20:05:18  <mmalecki>indutny, piscisaureus_: can I add a patch to an existing bug in v8 bug tracker?
20:05:25  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: maciej, actually :)
20:05:29  <piscisaureus_>ah
20:05:30  <piscisaureus_>man
20:05:38  <piscisaureus_>in dutch we have no words that end with a j
20:05:47  <mmalecki>really oO?
20:05:53  <piscisaureus_>no
20:06:01  <mmalecki>;)
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20:06:47  <piscisaureus_>a voiced palatal approximant is just too hard to pronounce :-)
20:06:56  <mmalecki>ugh, it doesn't *look* like I can simply add a patch
20:07:33  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: you want to add it to a a bug tracker issue or a rietveld issue?
20:08:02  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: http://code.google.com/p/v8/issues/detail?id=2064
20:08:21  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: no you can't add code to that
20:08:34  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: upload it to the code review site and and add a link
20:08:50  <piscisaureus_>(use git-cl if you're using git, or depot-tools if you're using svn)
20:09:38  <mmalecki>that's... ugh...
20:09:45  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: it's easy
20:10:46  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: clone the v8 git repo (http://git.chromium.org/external/v8.git) and git-cl (https://github.com/martine/git-cl)
20:10:54  <mmalecki>what the hell is wrong with github, damn it
20:11:12  <mmalecki>I never needed an external tool to contribute code, except actual version control
20:11:19  <mmalecki>now I need some tools to do that
20:11:21  <mmalecki>maaan
20:11:22  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: make a symlink called "git-cl" in your /bin or /usr/bin directory
20:12:22  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: go to the v8 source directory and enter "git cl config http://v8.googlecode.com/svn"
20:12:44  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: make a branch that tracks origin/master and apply your patch
20:12:50  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: and then enter "git cl upload"
20:13:02  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: once you have this stuff set up it's not hard any more
20:13:08  <piscisaureus_>and rieveld is actually not that bad
20:13:13  <piscisaureus_>*rietveld
20:13:29  <mmalecki>will "git cl upload" ask me for something or is that all?
20:13:45  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: it will ask you for your google account if it's the first time
20:13:50  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: and it will guide you from there
20:14:03  <piscisaureus_>if you get there it's easy
20:14:09  <mmalecki>okay, thanks
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21:23:37  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: and, did it work?
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21:24:26  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: I'm making my patch even better
21:24:38  <mmalecki>turns out tzset exists on all posix systems, not only solaris
21:24:39  <piscisaureus_>alrigeht :-)
21:25:05  <mmalecki>and I do indeed like removing code
21:25:28  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: do you guys have any nice solution for running tests on different platforms?
21:25:33  <mmalecki>or is it all manual?
21:25:45  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: "you guys" -> who ?
21:26:05  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: my suspiction is that the answer is no :-)
21:26:38  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: cloud9 uses jenkins
21:26:59  <mmalecki>I mean, core committers :)
21:27:29  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: the answer is also no. We have a couple of cloud9 machines but it's all machines
21:27:33  <piscisaureus_>er, it's all manual work
21:27:41  <piscisaureus_>fuck
21:27:51  <piscisaureus_>no cloud9 machines - cloud machines :-)
21:28:00  <mmalecki>yeah, I figured
21:28:08  * piscisaureus_suffers from professional degeneration
21:28:13  <mmalecki>some automation would be nice here
21:28:19  <piscisaureus_>yes
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21:30:38  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: any idea if solaris counts as posix in v8?
21:30:45  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: it does
21:30:57  <mmalecki>awesome, thanks
21:31:11  <mmalecki>and cygwin?
21:32:42  <mmalecki>ah, it does
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21:56:50  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: v8 doesn't actually work w/ cygwin
21:57:35  <piscisaureus_>or it might, but a lot of stuff may break (such as cygwin's fork() support)
21:57:57  <mmalecki>well, I'm changing timezone stuff
21:58:07  <mmalecki>nothing related to fork
21:58:26  <mmalecki>or like, nothing more serious
22:00:29  <bentkus>why cygwin
22:00:33  <bentkus>doesn't it just compile on windows?
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22:01:39  <mmalecki>I've heard it does
22:01:59  <mmalecki>I've heard node compiles on windows too
22:02:19  <bentkus>since there is a chrome version for windows
22:02:46  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: well, sometimes you need cygwin for other reasons
22:03:11  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: the earliest "node on windows" (e.g. prior to 4.12 or so) used cygwin
22:03:39  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: since then, nobody has cared about cygwin support
22:03:47  <bentkus>I when do you need cygwin?
22:04:33  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: well, if your program uses fork() for example :-).
22:05:08  <bentkus>no forking on windows? :(
22:05:17  <piscisaureus_>no
22:05:30  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: also, no dealing with sockets the unix way
22:05:36  <piscisaureus_>this is why we wrote libuv
22:05:52  <bentkus>I understand what uv is supposed to be
22:06:07  <bentkus>hide the windows juckies away
22:06:45  <piscisaureus_>yes
22:07:04  <piscisaureus_>although nowadays we also use it to hide mac os / linux yuckies away
22:07:21  <bentkus>why do some of the uv apis take a pointer of a sockaddr and others not?
22:07:34  <piscisaureus_>good question
22:07:41  <piscisaureus_>just because
22:08:06  <piscisaureus_>when we started we thought that passing sockaddrs by values was a good idea
22:08:22  <bentkus>some dude told me that this is inconsistent api is bad
22:08:29  <piscisaureus_>it is
22:08:34  <piscisaureus_>there are more inconsistencies
22:08:37  <bentkus>the generated code doesn't differ at all
22:08:55  <piscisaureus_>such as returning int vs returning uv_err_t for non-loop functions
22:09:13  <piscisaureus_>tell the some dude to send a patch
22:09:21  <piscisaureus_>I also dislike inconsistent APIs
22:09:32  <piscisaureus_>but realistically, who cares
22:10:02  <piscisaureus_>but it is our task to fix this and at least not make it worse
22:10:10  <bentkus>i will write a patch
22:10:19  <bentkus>I do care.
22:10:27  <piscisaureus_>I think someone already did
22:10:29  <piscisaureus_>but
22:10:39  <piscisaureus_>if you do that you force all the people to upgrade their code
22:10:50  <piscisaureus_>without any obvious advantage
22:10:50  <bentkus>xD
22:11:15  <bentkus>well most of them don't write bindings without using c
22:11:32  <piscisaureus_>true
22:11:39  <piscisaureus_>but they still need to upgrade their code\
22:12:08  <piscisaureus_>so maybe send an email to the ML and see what the community response it
22:12:09  <piscisaureus_>*is
22:12:17  <bentkus>well, are there any features which will brake the api?
22:12:30  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: ?
22:12:55  <bentkus>break*
22:13:05  <bentkus>are there any features planned which will break the api?
22:13:27  <bentkus>I mean if you break something anyway, you can toss some more along with it
22:13:28  <piscisaureus_>not really I think
22:13:45  <piscisaureus_>I mean, merging all the handle types will change it considerably
22:13:58  <piscisaureus_>but we can easily keep the old stuff working
22:14:08  <piscisaureus_>that said, I am not necessarily against breaking the API
22:14:19  <piscisaureus_>but it's nice to have a somewhat good reason for it
22:14:30  <piscisaureus_>and indeed, if we're going to do it, better do it "in bulk"
22:15:34  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: you are the same guy as txdv right?
22:16:12  <bentkus>yeah
22:16:24  <piscisaureus_>ok. That clarifies :-)
22:16:55  <bentkus>too lazy to turn on quasselclient
22:17:10  <bentkus>im on a 512mb ram machine, so irssi is easier to use
22:17:34  <piscisaureus_>ouch
22:18:23  <bentkus>v8 is awesome because it doesn't eat up a lot of ram
22:20:02  <piscisaureus_>ehwut?
22:20:59  <bentkus>node doesn't take a lot of ram to run
22:22:28  <piscisaureus_>I think many people would disagree
22:22:34  <piscisaureus_>creationix for example
22:23:34  <bentkus>yeah, luvit uses less
22:24:18  <mmalecki>even 10 MB becomes a problem sometimes
22:24:27  <mmalecki>AMIRITE, AvianFlu?
22:24:38  <AvianFlu>OH DON'T EVEN TALK TO ME ABOUT 10MB
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22:25:22  <bentkus>on changelog they made a point that luvit is nice to run on mobile devices with low ram
22:25:38  <bentkus>but the new phones have more ram than this laptop
22:28:31  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: well, get yourself a modern laptop
22:28:48  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: i have this lame old chromebook sitting on my desk and even that has 2 gigs o ram
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22:29:44  <bentkus>naah, this is my vacation laptop
22:30:23  <mmalecki>ugh, so os x I'm running has `timezone` variable defined, but it isn't documented anywhere
22:30:52  <mmalecki>I doubt v8 folks will like it
22:31:17  <mmalecki>it's explicitely documented on solaris only
22:31:44  <bentkus>that timezone bug again?
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22:32:20  <mmalecki>yeah, I fixed it, then noticed that it can be used on linux and OS X too
22:32:31  <mmalecki>but turns out it's not there on some implementations...
22:32:50  <mmalecki>but like, not really documented anywhere
22:33:43  <bentkus>write the documentation later
22:33:47  <bentkus>they said
22:33:55  <mmalecki>actually, it *is* documented on linux
22:34:07  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: what is, exactly?
22:34:17  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: `timezone` variable
22:34:51  <mmalecki>on solaris it's documented in `man 3 localtime`
22:35:00  <mmalecki>on linux it's `man 3 tzset`
22:35:18  <mmalecki>it *appears* to be working on BSD too
22:35:45  <mmalecki>wondering if joyent has openbsd too...
22:36:06  <bentkus>one lib to rule them all
22:36:41  <mmalecki>no, ugh
22:36:54  <tjfontaine>there were some obsd patches that landed recently in libuv
22:37:03  <tjfontaine>oh that was netbsd
22:37:09  <mmalecki>fucking posix man
22:37:33  <bentkus>node on netbsd
22:37:35  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/System/Conceptual/ManPages_iPhoneOS/man3/difftime.3.html
22:37:41  <bentkus>never tried a bsd, maybe I should try that
22:37:55  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: look at the last comment on the bottom of the page
22:37:58  <piscisaureus_>er,
22:38:04  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: look at the last comment on the bottom of the page
22:38:07  <piscisaureus_>sorry mraleph
22:38:09  <mraleph>zomg
22:38:14  <mraleph>I also had a heart attach
22:38:19  <mraleph>detach
22:38:22  <piscisaureus_>haha
22:38:29  <piscisaureus_>you also had a typo atleast :-)
22:38:57  <mmalecki>so ugh, I guess I'll use timezone on solaris only
22:38:59  <piscisaureus_>sorry mraleph. Do you need therapy now?
22:39:18  <mmalecki>there was a chance to delete so many lines of code
22:39:23  <mmalecki>it's all gone now.
22:39:27  <mmalecki>thanks POSIX>
22:39:45  <mraleph>piscisaureus_: I'll survive :-)
22:39:57  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: good. See you thursday, then
22:40:26  <mraleph>yep
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22:40:37  <mraleph>btw which flight are you flying piscisaureus_?
22:40:47  * piscisaureus_looks it up
22:42:19  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: TAP 663. Arriving in lisbon thursday @ 13:45
22:42:42  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: we might've ended up on the same flight, let me confirm that
22:42:51  <mraleph>sigh
22:42:56  <mraleph>I arrive an hour later.
22:43:00  <piscisaureus_>mine departs from amsterdam (as one might expect)
22:43:11  <bentkus>what are you doing in amsterdam
22:43:21  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: smoking pot. Why?
22:43:24  <mraleph>I am on KL1693 from Amsterdam.
22:43:29  <piscisaureus_>ah
22:43:51  <piscisaureus_>I had our office manager book, so I have no clue why I ended up on a TAP flight?
22:43:56  <mmalecki>nah, mine is TP0587, arriving at 10:40
22:43:59  <piscisaureus_>s/?/./
22:44:13  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: for the record, I live in amsterdam.
22:45:05  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: because TAP is the only reasonable alternative :)
22:45:06  <bentkus>why do you speak german than
22:45:35  <mmalecki>there might be some lufthansa flights too tho
22:46:30  <bentkus>then
22:48:20  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: ich sprich keine deutsch.
22:48:26  <piscisaureus_>sprache
22:48:28  <piscisaureus_>spruch
22:48:42  <mmalecki>okay, my patch is ready!
22:49:06  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: so you're arriving around 14:30?
22:49:53  <bentkus>spreche
22:50:18  <piscisaureus_>sproch
22:50:24  <deoxxa>sprocket
22:50:32  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: mind taking a quick look to make sure I didn't fuck anything up? https://github.com/mmalecki/v8/compare/2064-use-correct-timezone-on-solaris
22:50:34  <bentkus>ich spreche deutsch
22:50:46  <mmalecki>commit message references bug in the issue tracker
22:50:47  <deoxxa>poopenschlagen
22:51:05  <deoxxa>(pretty sure that doesn't mean anything)
22:52:21  <bentkus>it means 'fuckinghitting'
22:52:41  <deoxxa>lolwhat
22:52:54  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: it looks harmless. You should test it for a DST and a non-dst scenario
22:53:00  <piscisaureus_>if it is correct, then i believe you
22:53:21  <mmalecki>thanks :)
22:53:52  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: does it?
22:54:05  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: looks more like "shittingbeating" to me
22:54:26  <bentkus>poppen means fucking
22:54:33  <piscisaureus_>bentkus: but I may not understand all the subtleties of the german language :D
22:56:21  <piscisaureus_>let's all say random german words here. I'll start
22:56:27  <piscisaureus_>schwanzkopf
22:56:40  <mmalecki>I only feel like I'll ever need one sentence in german
22:56:48  <mmalecki>'nicht schiesen'
22:56:48  <bentkus>eiermaschine
22:56:53  <mmalecki>or however that's spelled
22:56:58  <bentkus>why that?
22:56:58  <mmalecki>which means 'do not shoot'
22:59:29  <bentkus>damn so lazy
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23:03:34  <piscisaureus_>haende hoch
23:03:41  <piscisaureus_>alle ausgange sind umstellt
23:04:53  <bentkus>very pesimistic sentences
23:05:05  <piscisaureus_>abklatsch, sofort
23:05:30  <bentkus>alle nutten sind um sonst
23:05:39  <piscisaureus_>schwalbe
23:05:48  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: http://codereview.chromium.org/10967066/ - looks good?
23:06:08  <piscisaureus_>sure
23:06:10  <mmalecki>I'm not sure if that should be pointing to chromium codereview...
23:06:11  <piscisaureus_>now add a reviewer
23:06:33  <mmalecki>should it be there? don't they have a separate thing just for v8?
23:06:45  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: do "git log platform-solaris.cc" and pick a reviewer
23:06:53  <piscisaureus_>someone who has landed stuff before
23:06:54  <mraleph>piscisaureus_: yes I arrive 14:35 to Lisbon from AMS
23:07:24  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: if you're smart you pick a german looking name over a danish looking one
23:07:31  <mmalecki>lulz
23:07:34  <mmalecki>okay
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23:08:41  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: is Yang working on dart or on v8?
23:08:43  * brsonjoined
23:09:02  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: how do I link to V8 issue?
23:09:06  <mraleph>Yang is working on V8 in MUC.
23:09:09  <mmalecki>just paste link?
23:09:22  <mmalecki>BUG=x links to chromium issues
23:09:29  <mraleph>v8:issue
23:09:31  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: BUG=v8:xxx
23:09:40  <mmalecki>ah. thanks :)
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23:14:55  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: ok, if you're into it, let's meet up on thursday if you're into it. I'll drop you an email with my local phone number when I arrive.
23:15:31  <piscisaureus_>(discount the double "into it" stuff)
23:15:59  <mmalecki>okay, now time to publish that
23:16:06  <mmalecki>I'm kind of stressed XD
23:16:23  <mmalecki>will they kill me if I do something wrong?
23:16:28  <mmalecki>they know my address
23:16:31  <mraleph>yep, we should definetely meet and have some beers and food
23:16:47  <mraleph>piscisaureus_: are you also staying in the same hotel?
23:16:53  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: no
23:16:58  <mraleph>evil you
23:17:00  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: it was full
23:17:21  <piscisaureus_>mraleph: I am staying https://maps.google.nl/maps?saddr=Travessa+da+Queimada+44,+1200-365+Lisboa,+Portugal&daddr=Mercado+da+Ribeira,+Avenida+24+de+Julho,+Lisboa,+Portugal&hl=nl&ll=38.709893,-9.144037&spn=0.01003,0.022724&sll=38.709765,-9.144465&sspn=0.01003,0.022724&geocode=FRq2TgIdg3Z0_ymtSzj2fzQZDTEEQnwBwPueqQ%3BFX2fTgIdh3J0_yE9bKULJ3P0aikNDQ0MmzQZDTE9bKULJ3P0ag&oq=Mercado+da+Ribeira&dirflg=w&mra=ltm&t=m&z=16
23:17:39  <piscisaureus_>point A :-)
23:18:35  <mmalecki>piscisaureus_: should I input any message when publishing?
23:18:44  <mmalecki>or is the topic enough?
23:18:52  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: no, it's okay.
23:19:13  <piscisaureus_>mmalecki: I typically put some polite words there
23:19:28  <mmalecki>published
23:19:38  <piscisaureus_>k
23:19:49  <mmalecki>thanks for help piscisaureus_, mraleph :)
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