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01:02:35  <mikeal>how long until we have a leveldown binding for rocksdb :)
01:03:36  <rvagg>darn, I was just heading out to lunch! now I need a new binding!
01:03:43  <rvagg>heh, it's basically a leveldb fork so it should be simple
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01:04:19  <brycebaril>What's the overlap between all these different forks?
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01:04:54  <rvagg>looks like rocksdb isn't aiming to be leveldb, hence the naming difference
01:05:12  <rvagg>hyperleveldb maintains binary compatible but seems to be heading in a similar direction to rocksdb
01:06:58  <rvagg>in terms of API overlap, basho leveldb and hyperleveldb are easy to maintain in branches of leveldown
01:07:02  <rvagg>this might be a different story
01:07:05  <rvagg>I'll have a poke around tho
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01:24:36  <rescrv>rvagg: I plan to keep hyperleveldb API compatible, and may eventually adopt the *.ldb naming scheme just for compatibility.
01:24:44  <rescrv>I certainly won't break things just for the sake of doing so.
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01:34:23  <rescrv>I'm getting ready to cut a release of hyperleveldb. Were there other fixes?
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02:19:18  <rvagg>rescrv: not unless you want to have a look at that corruption issue but that might just be google leveldb, I don't think they've tried hyperleveldb with npmd
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02:20:29  <rescrv>rvagg: I'm going to look into it. I have to get this done first though.
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02:21:05  <rvagg>we have a new leveldown release coming up so it'll be good timing
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02:47:27  <hij1nx>these limitations are due to the fundamental design, and a patch probably isnt going to cut it. i think it needs a complete rewrite.
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03:15:32  <justicefries>rvagg is leveldown using hyperleveldb?
03:15:35  <justicefries>or basho leveldb?
03:15:36  <justicefries>rather
03:15:50  <rvagg>justicefries: leveldown-hyper and leveldown-basho
03:16:03  <rvagg>justicefries: level-hyper and level-basho if you want it bundled with levelup too
03:16:07  <justicefries>got it, nice.
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03:43:32  <rvagg>btw, rocksdb is using some c++11 features, haven't seen that yet from an OSS product
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04:06:17  <levelbot>[npm] rocksdb@0.0.0-a01 <http://npm.im/rocksdb>: A Node.js RocksDB binding, LevelDOWN-compatible (alpha release) (@rvagg)
04:06:34  <rvagg>thar you go!
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04:09:17  <levelbot>[npm] field-marshal@1.2.0 <http://npm.im/field-marshal>: The land based equivalent of a Rear Admiral (@davidbanham)
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04:11:20  <levelbot>[npm] level-rocksdb@0.0.0 <http://npm.im/level-rocksdb>: Nothing to see here yet (@rvagg)
04:11:28  <rvagg>^^ that's just a placeholder for now so some troll doesn't steal the name, I'll make that work as soon as we have leveldown 0.10 out
04:11:44  <rvagg>but anyone that wants to experiment with rocksdb can just force levelup to accept its version and it should work
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05:23:42  <rvagg>sorry for the spam, I'm trying to get this right, kind of tricky
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05:27:43  <rvagg>hackerified! https://twitter.com/lakenen/status/401216777129975808
05:28:20  <levelbot>[npm] rocksdb@0.0.0-a05 <http://npm.im/rocksdb>: A Node.js RocksDB binding, LevelDOWN-compatible (alpha release) (@rvagg)
05:30:50  <levelbot>[npm] level-rocksdb@0.17.0 <http://npm.im/level-rocksdb>: Fast & simple storage - a Node.js-style LevelDB wrapper (a convenience package bundling LevelUP & LevelDOWN) [RocksDB fork] (@rvagg)
05:32:10  <rvagg>thar ya go
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05:36:15  <ramitos>rvagg running the levelup benchmarks with level-basho, level-hyper and level-lmdb I get malloc errors
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05:37:10  <ramitos>rvagg well, with basho is a SIGSEGV error
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05:57:06  <rvagg>well then ...
05:57:27  <rvagg>ramitos: could be to do with some of the stuff we're fixing for leveldown@0.10
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05:57:45  <rvagg>see the 0.9.3-wip branch (pull request) of leveldown, that'll actually be 0.10 and has some fixes
05:57:47  <rvagg>about to put some more in
05:59:19  <ramitos>cool, thanks
05:59:38  <ramitos>just tested with level-mem and I got SIGSEGV too
05:59:51  <rvagg>whoa
05:59:55  <rvagg>node problem
06:00:03  <rvagg>what version of node?
06:00:29  <ramitos>0.10.21
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06:05:44  <ramitos>rvagg btw, awesome to see that level-rocksdb is going to happen :)
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06:13:45  <rvagg>ramitos: it works now if you're on linux, give it a spin
06:14:10  <ramitos>not on linux, but I'll try in a VM
06:14:13  <ramitos>thanks
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07:31:06  <juliangruber>hij1nx: i've been trying to fix some of the things you mentioned in https://github.com/juliangruber/level-prefix
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08:16:35  <hij1nx>juliangruber: ah! level-prefix looks good, i'll start looking more closely as a replacement
08:16:58  <hij1nx>mikeal: rocksdb?
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09:09:54  <rvagg>hij1nx: https://github.com/facebook/rocksdb facebook's fork
09:10:01  <rvagg>c++11, lots of additional cruft
09:10:17  <rvagg>personally I hope it sucks cause that's how I feel about facebook but it does look like a lot of work has gone in to it
09:10:40  <rvagg>test with level-rocksdb if you want, only compiles on linux (as far as I know) so far, haven't tried osx yet
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10:28:50  <rvagg>^^ very minor change, just for approximateSize()
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14:48:18  <ogd>lol @ 'only' in "while the machine has only 144Gb of RAM"
14:48:20  <ogd>https://github.com/facebook/rocksdb/wiki/Performance-Benchmarks
14:50:20  <ogd>rvagg: the "leveldb: many many days (in 24 hours it inserted only 2 million key-values) " seems like a bad benchmark to me
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16:08:20  <rescrv>lots of features in common with hyperleveldb. I'll have to dig into it further
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