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| <hij1nx> | owen1: try https://localhost:8080 |
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| <rvagg> | hij1nx: HN almost always = FUD |
| 01:29:58
| <rvagg> | hij1nx: there are issues with write performance for large amounts of data in LevelDB, it was never designed for it, but LevelDB is a work in progress and as it gets exposed to use-cases outside of IndexedDB these things will be fixed |
| 01:30:37
| <mbalho> | 'big data' database people are also mostly wankers in my experience |
| 01:30:49
| <rvagg> | "I'm surprised it uses LevelDB since it has issues with ... blah blah blah blah", typical HN post when someone mentions LevelDB--just some idiot wanting to demonstrate how smart they are but not having had ANY experience with LevelDB or perhaps many database at all |
| 01:31:29
| <rvagg> | same used to happen on Slashdot when it was the place to read tech news, I stopped reading tech comments way back then cause it's always the same |
| 01:31:37
| <rvagg> | nerds have massive egos and their comment threads reflect that |
| 01:31:43
| <rvagg> | ANYWAY, back to the point |
| 01:32:16
| <rvagg> | it's write performance that LevelDB *perhaps* has problems with *under very particular use-cases*, |
| 01:32:35
| <rvagg> | ignore the idiots who read a bug report somewhere once and took it as ultimate truth about all uses-cases for all-time |
| 01:33:14
| <rvagg> | AND, thankfully we have the option of switching out the backend of LevelUP for different use-cases, I expect that within 6 months we'll have at least 2 more realistic server-side alternatives to plain LevelDB |
| 01:33:36
| <rvagg> | perhaps the Redis fork serves some use-cases better (my benchmarks don't show it to be any better for standard operations) |
| 01:33:45
| <rvagg> | we'll have level.js which could be awesomesauce |
| 01:34:06
| <rvagg> | and there's another embedded data store that I'm keen to start hacking on to make Node bindings for that'll be LevelDOWN compatible |
| 01:34:08
| <rvagg> | </rant> |
| 02:09:38
| <st_luke> | I always take database scaling criticism with a grain of salt. Relatively few people get DBs to their limits. |
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| <rvagg> | yeah, certainly not the kind of people who have time to demonstrate how intelligent they are on HN |
| 02:34:17
| <chapel> | Hive mind and everything |
| 02:34:33
| <chapel> | Those are the same people that hate on node |
| 02:35:51
| <chapel> | And the reason they hate on databases like leveldb is because they want to refute anyone choosing anything other than a relational db |
| 02:36:34
| <chapel> | Have any of you seen the port of using leveldb under mysql? |
| 02:42:56
| <rvagg> | heh, no |
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| <rvagg> | craaaazy |
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| <chapel> | rvagg: was mariadb not mysql https://kb.askmonty.org/en/leveldb-storage-engine/ |
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| <hij1nx> | rvagg: mbalho: lol, i certainly dont buy into the conversation, but the guy who makes redis pointed it out to me (http://hackingitalia.com/news/55) |
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| <hij1nx> | owen1: working now? |
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| <hij1nx> | rvagg: mbalho: of course, his perspective is going to be bias ;) |
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| <rvagg> | hij1nx: yeah, I saw that antirez pointed there, but it was fairly clear that he didn't have much of an idea |
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| <owen1> | hij1nx: yup. thanks |
| 07:08:25
| <owen1> | hij1nx: actually - events.js:72 |
| 07:08:26
| <owen1> | throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event |
| 07:08:28
| <owen1> | ^ |
| 07:08:30
| <owen1> | EncodingError: Unexpected token ΓΏ |
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| <owen1> | at ReadStream._onData (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/levelweb/node_modules/levelup/lib/read-stream.js:136:31) |
| 07:10:00
| <rvagg> | trying to JSON.parse a utf8 string with \xff at the front (sublevel probably) |
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| <chapel> | rvagg: did you see the mariadb link? |
| 07:19:39
| <owen1> | rvagg: oh. indeed. i use sublevel |
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| <chilts> | chapel: pong (sorry, been away most of this weekend) |
| 09:20:32
| <chapel> | chilts: no worries |
| 09:21:05
| <chapel> | haven't done a readme, also tests are basic, but feel free to use anything worth using https://github.com/chapel/unid |
| 09:21:17
| <chapel> | I used netif after seeing it in yours |
| 09:22:08
| <chilts> | wolfeidau: will be happy! :) |
| 09:22:13
| <chilts> | (that's his module) |
| 09:22:25
| <chilts> | thanks, will take a look :) |
| 09:22:25
| <chapel> | works much better than a shell command :) |
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| <wolfeidau> | chilts: chapel yes! |
| 09:23:00
| <wolfeidau> | chapel: Make sure you vote for the pull request too which adds mac addresses to core nodejs :) |
| 09:23:10
| <chapel> | wolfeidau: I may have to :) |
| 09:23:27
| <chapel> | chilts: I also moved the sequence after the timestamp |
| 09:23:38
| <chapel> | since it made sense to have it there after we talked about it |
| 09:24:30
| <chapel> | one nice thing about level and how it sorts everything by default, I can do finds based off of timestamps |
| 09:24:41
| <chapel> | directly on the data itself, no separate index needed |
| 09:25:52
| <chapel> | anyways, its late, I should get some sleep |
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| <chilts> | night |
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| <hij1nx> | owen1: if you've not fixed the problem can you open an issue on levelweb? |
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| <owen1> | hij1nx: oh. sure |
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| <mbalho> | rvagg: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348166 |
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| <mbalho> | https://github.com/chootka/subnodes |
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| <rvagg> | mbalho: ! thanks |
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| <chapel> | chilts: did you get a chance to look at unid? |
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| <chilts> | not yet, when I saw it I went to bed, and got up a few hours ago :) |
| 23:36:44
| <chilts> | and now working |
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| <chilts> | perhaps tonight :D |
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| <chapel> | no worries |
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