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18:20:57  <vpovirk>I'm trying, but windows keeps updating itself
18:22:05  <ender`>it likes doing that at the most inappropriate time
18:22:23  <GarrettS-MSFT>auroraeosrose ... you commin' ?
18:22:55  <auroraeosrose>yes coming
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21:46:26  <auroraeosrose>ugh, had to go drive kids around
21:46:37  <GarrettS-MSFT>that's ok. We're pretty much concluded.
21:46:38  <GarrettS-MSFT>:D
21:59:49  <vpovirk>GarrettS-MSFT: do you think it'll be ok if we don't support xml substitutions?
22:02:31  <GarrettS-MSFT>I think that's ok
22:04:06  <vpovirk>I'm reading the introduction to xmllite on msdn and maybe native does that anyway?
22:04:19  <GarrettS-MSFT>It's possible.
22:04:26  <vpovirk>one nice thing I just realized is that if there's a bug in windows xmllite, we have to match it in wine anyway :)
22:04:27  <GarrettS-MSFT>it is *lite*
22:04:32  <GarrettS-MSFT>:D
22:04:58  <ender|>"lite" as in "not-really-xml, just a subset"? :)
22:05:28  <bcraig>great taste, less filling
22:05:30  <vpovirk>If the XmlReaderProperty_DtdProcessing property is set to DtdProcessing_Prohibit, IXmlReader will return an error when a DTD is encountered.
22:05:44  <vpovirk>but then we have to ask: can you get away with using it in that way?
22:05:57  <ender|>http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=251
22:07:00  <vpovirk>so: do you need support for external doctypes, and do you need support for entity expansion?
22:07:38  <vpovirk>afaict windows xmllite can do both of those things, if configured for it, but wine's probably can't
22:08:37  <bcraig>DTD is a huge mess as far as XML + Security is concerned
22:08:45  <bcraig>http://docs.python.org/2.7/library/xml.html
22:09:31  <GarrettS-MSFT>Doctypes and schemas are ignored in XMLLite
22:12:12  <vpovirk>my understanding was that you had to do a bit of work to get them, but it could be done
22:12:21  <vpovirk>from the little bit of msdn docs I read
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