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15:30:59  <mgdm>FearTheCowboy: did you get anywhere with your C99 quest?
15:33:16  <auroraeosrose>I dunno - but I had interesting times seeing all the projects with "crap, remove c99 microsoft doesn't support it" commits
15:37:59  <mgdm>anything new I write is getting C99. Sod 'em. :D
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16:04:39  <FearTheCowboy>mgdm -> it would appear that they are definitely pursuing adding more C99 support. I doubt they will have the ability to get to 100% in the next VC, but we should see quite a lot of the low hanging fruit
16:04:53  <FearTheCowboy>(if it's not difficult, it's much easier)
16:05:21  <FearTheCowboy>plus, apparently the latest C++ spec calls for almost all of the c99 headers, which helps a lot in their effort.
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16:36:23  <auroraeosrose>FearTheCowboy: yeah, that should help an awful lot if they have to do the headers anyway ;)
17:07:20  <mgdm>FearTheCowboy: nice one
17:27:34  <FearTheCowboy>Acutally I learned a TON of stuff yesterday.
17:28:05  <auroraeosrose>like?
17:28:09  <FearTheCowboy>remebmer that quote I keep draggin out "C99 support isn't in VC because nobody uses C99 in Windows" ?
17:28:19  <FearTheCowboy>I've been misinterpreting it all these years.
17:28:43  <FearTheCowboy>VC's biggest customer is Windows (ie, the part of MS that makes windows)... THEY drive features in VC more than anyone.
17:29:22  <FearTheCowboy>so when they said that, they meant that nobody in the Windows Organization asked for C99, and hence, it wasn't a big priority.
17:30:01  <FearTheCowboy>I didn't stop to ask who in Windows asked for slit-your-wrist grey as the and ugly monochrome icons in VS 2012 ...
17:30:04  <FearTheCowboy>:)
17:30:15  <FearTheCowboy>But their statement finally makes some sense.
17:30:52  <auroraeosrose>that's hilarious
17:31:15  <auroraeosrose>"C99 support isn't in VC because nobody writing Windows uses C99 in Windows"
17:31:26  <auroraeosrose>chicken, meet egg - move along
17:31:43  <FearTheCowboy>Well, if someone in the Windows org told them they needed C99 support, it would have happened
17:31:59  <auroraeosrose>so - you need to convince the windows org they need c99?
17:32:00  <auroraeosrose>LOL
17:32:34  <FearTheCowboy>Well, now they are actually listening, I showed him the hundreds of projects that use C99 and are either blocked or have hacky workarounds.
17:32:57  <FearTheCowboy>they don't have a lot of manpower to throw at it, but they're going to see what can easily be accomplished.
17:33:23  <FearTheCowboy>there's a lot which is just adding keywords for ms's proprietary stuff... that's simple.
17:33:42  <auroraeosrose>yup
17:33:49  <auroraeosrose>that would help a lot though
17:34:02  <auroraeosrose>and the definitions not at top would be awesome ;) that's the other 50%
17:34:03  <FearTheCowboy>Sadly, their extneral motivators are "What would people writing Windows Fucking Store Apps" want.
17:34:04  <FearTheCowboy>*sigh*
17:34:24  <auroraeosrose>must... not... snark
17:34:45  <virmitio>auroraeosrose: eh, go ahead. we can hear you thinking it anyway
17:34:50  <FearTheCowboy>but... VLC wants to make a W8StoreApp, and it relies on code that's C99, and hence... won't work without f'ing around
17:35:04  <auroraeosrose>awesome ;)
17:35:05  <FearTheCowboy>so there's actually a concrete case.
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18:20:40  <ender`>is there any way to set DLL search path for a child process (without using SxS)?
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18:27:53  <vpovirk>PATH envvar?
18:33:35  <ender`>PATH is the last thing that's searched unfortunately
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