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01:41:43  <GarrettS-MSFT>ender| ?
01:41:47  <GarrettS-MSFT>madewokherd
01:41:48  <GarrettS-MSFT>?
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01:42:27  <FearTheCowboy>IT FRICKING WORKS!
01:42:27  <FearTheCowboy>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36464965&postcount=276
01:42:43  * FearTheCowboyis cuddling his Surface which is now running putty.
01:42:44  <FearTheCowboy>:D
01:48:52  <madewokherd>whoa what?
01:49:00  <madewokherd>this doesn't involve a remote debugger?
01:49:12  <FearTheCowboy>NOPE
01:49:38  <FearTheCowboy>You need to deploy that trivial little app that lets you open a cmd prompt
01:49:44  <FearTheCowboy>and then WHEEEEEEEE
01:49:52  <madewokherd>oh that one I've had installed forever
01:50:14  <madewokherd>did you read any complaints about the cmd prompt hanging?
01:50:33  <FearTheCowboy>that's easy to deal with
01:50:48  <FearTheCowboy>drag the app to the side
01:50:53  <FearTheCowboy>so that it stays active
01:51:11  <madewokherd>oh I'm aware of it
01:51:20  <madewokherd>and why it happens
01:51:21  <madewokherd>just wondering if anyone else noticed
01:51:47  * FearTheCowboynot so worried now that my Surface has been liberated from unjust incarceration.
01:52:10  <madewokherd>still not bulletproof though
01:52:30  <madewokherd>you don't have to update but you do need a developer license
01:54:17  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, but ... you can get that with VSExpress.
01:55:18  <madewokherd>but not if you have to update your tablet to get the license
01:56:00  <madewokherd>"echo Make sure this has been ran as admin. If you didn't run as admin, press CTRL+C now."
01:56:07  <madewokherd>what does that mean?
01:56:51  <madewokherd>oh you start the .bat file outside the app package
01:57:15  <FearTheCowboy>run the bat file from an elevated cmd
01:57:48  <FearTheCowboy>the only thing that needs to run in the appx cmd window is the getKernelBase.exe
01:59:14  <FearTheCowboy>the only thing that needs to run in the appx cmd window is the getKernelBase.exe
01:59:15  <madewokherd>where did this cdb.exe come from?
01:59:28  <FearTheCowboy>I think it might have come from the wdk
01:59:39  <FearTheCowboy>I heard it was leaked a while back
01:59:42  <madewokherd>sounds illegal
02:00:10  <FearTheCowboy>Well, certainly not kosher I imagine.
02:01:19  <madewokherd>I guess in theory you could move the getKernelBase stuff to use cdb then, right?
02:02:36  <FearTheCowboy>it's certainly possible.
02:03:06  <madewokherd>that would prevent MS from blocking it by updating the kernel
02:04:29  <madewokherd>because then it could work from the factory image with no network access
02:11:33  <FearTheCowboy>Mouse without borders works nice
02:11:46  <FearTheCowboy>(synergy style app from MS)
02:11:56  <FearTheCowboy>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36428923&postcount=258
02:12:22  <madewokherd>can I host that from linux?
02:12:36  <FearTheCowboy>probably now.
02:12:36  <FearTheCowboy>not
02:12:52  <FearTheCowboy>it's .net but it's got a svc and stuff
02:13:11  <FearTheCowboy>but at least it's CPUANY and actually just worked :D
02:13:16  <madewokherd>ohh
02:13:25  <madewokherd>I temporarily forgot about that
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04:30:08  <madewokherd>so now we just need to get coapp off the ground so I can have some software on my rt desktop
04:30:24  <madewokherd>synergy
04:30:26  <madewokherd>also gedit
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04:50:40  <FearTheCowboy>http://j.mp/UIxrDU
04:50:47  <FearTheCowboy>got scite running on RT
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17:24:38  <GarrettS-MSFT>Virmitio -> you around this morning?
17:30:48  <GarrettS-MSFT>madewokherd -> I got scite to build for RT last night. Works like a charm.
17:45:42  <madewokherd>hi
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17:48:52  <madewokherd>that reminds me, I need to do a survey of missing dll's on windows rt
17:49:14  <madewokherd>I know it's missing opengl
17:52:15  <madewokherd>no cards.dll
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17:55:09  <madewokherd>no d3dx/d3dcompiler
17:56:22  <madewokherd>no dinput
18:12:44  <madewokherd>oh man I forgot wine had a progman.exe
18:12:49  <madewokherd>I should build that for windows rt
18:13:09  <madewokherd>it's even better than clock.exe
18:13:34  <GarrettS-MSFT>LOL
18:14:17  <GarrettS-MSFT>i wrote a script to generate all the lib files last night for the dlls that are there that are missing in the actual SDK
18:14:59  <madewokherd>quartz.dll is directshow, right?
18:15:31  <GarrettS-MSFT>uh thinkso
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18:29:18  <madewokherd>so what's missing (that I've deemed notable) is D3dx, DirectInput, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, DirectShow, OpenGL, TWAIN, and the winhelp viewer
18:29:59  <madewokherd>in theory wine could provide the missing directx bits
18:31:01  <GarrettS-MSFT>I thought d3d was supposed to be there so that metro games could do 3d...
18:31:13  <madewokherd>d3d is there but not d3dx
18:31:16  <GarrettS-MSFT>ah
18:31:28  <ender1>twain is open-source, so you should be able to replace it
18:31:48  <madewokherd>not that I actually think anyone will connect a scanner to their surface
18:32:01  <madewokherd>or that they'd somehow have drivers if they did
18:32:05  <ender1>it's used by some cameras, too (don't ask me why)
18:32:17  <madewokherd>usb cameras?
18:33:09  <ender1>no, for taking pictures
18:33:38  <ender1>(of course, you wouldn't get their support software on RT anyway, so it doesn't really matter)
18:33:59  <madewokherd>overall it's just really surprising how complete this is
18:34:49  <madewokherd>I don't know how we could get opengl
18:49:22  <auroraeosrose>opengl might be the hardest one
19:01:53  <madewokherd>mesa has a windows build but it's all in software
19:06:02  <madewokherd>gallium3d maybe?
19:09:41  <madewokherd>someone would have to write a dxgi backend
19:09:48  <madewokherd>I guess they're called drivers..
19:20:51  <madewokherd>https://code.google.com/p/angleproject/ <-- oh and there's this thing
19:22:49  <madewokherd>afaict that would need d3dx
19:23:08  <madewokherd>and wouldn't provide glu or wgl
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19:44:59  <ender1>http://www.neowin.net/news/another-skydrive-account-gets-blocked-raising-privacy-concerns
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19:55:02  <auroraeosrose>again?
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19:59:45  <ender1>apparently
20:00:48  <auroraeosrose>although... he didnt' do the appeal right
20:00:50  <auroraeosrose>just sayin
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