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14:51:54  <alkaline>(It's oh-so-quiet, shhh, shhh)
14:53:18  <auroraeosrose>lalalala
14:53:26  <auroraeosrose>that's cause rewrites are up again
14:53:32  * auroraeosrosemumbles
14:53:52  <virmitio>doomed
15:25:37  <FearTheCowboy>lol
15:25:49  <FearTheCowboy>We should have a regularly-scheduled-meeting tomorrow.
15:26:05  <FearTheCowboy>I at least have a plan. Or enough of one that we can move forward again :D
15:28:20  <alkaline>yeah... weren't things on pause re: nuget stuff?
15:28:37  <alkaline>(i realized that the coapp world's been relative quiet of late)
15:29:03  <vpovirk>should I know who alkaline is?
15:29:35  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah things got paused (nuget and others...)
15:30:02  <FearTheCowboy>vpovirk -> he was here a looong time ago. Promised much work ... :D
15:30:30  <FearTheCowboy>The good news is that since OneSetup will be all native code, auroraeosrose and alkaline can get their hands dirty...
15:30:42  <alkaline>'xactly :)
15:31:37  <alkaline>i'm dusting off a x586 PII-based box to test the backwards compatibility mettle of coapp :P
15:32:56  <FearTheCowboy>haha
15:37:07  <auroraeosrose>WEEE
15:37:10  <auroraeosrose>NAVTIVE CODE
15:39:49  <alkaline>i'm having a slow going downloading WinPhone8's SDK ISO from msft downloads. hmpf.
15:40:13  <alkaline>3 times in 12 hrs it halts after 15-16%
15:40:15  <FearTheCowboy>And, for the most part, all the WMI/OMI related code should be autogenerated, so we really shouldn't have a lot of pain around that.
15:40:57  <auroraeosrose>malloc
15:41:02  <auroraeosrose>I like C
15:43:32  <vpovirk>I'd have expected C++
15:43:37  <vpovirk>which makes me not want to go near it
15:45:59  <auroraeosrose>hehe
15:46:15  <auroraeosrose>C++ is fine as long as you use the least common subset of "cool stuff bolted on"
15:46:23  <auroraeosrose>and beat all other developers who do not follow that rule
15:46:41  <virmitio>I'm sure that can be arranged somehow
15:47:27  <auroraeosrose>I mean, C++ does have some nice ideas and it can be nicer to work in OO then straight C - the problem is the language has become a frankenstein
15:47:33  <auroraeosrose>makes PHP look "designed" - sad
15:51:15  <FearTheCowboy>The trouble with C++ is that it's less of a language, and more just a language to make-your-own-language
15:51:42  <auroraeosrose>yup
15:51:54  <auroraeosrose>which is why I understand obj-c
15:52:03  <auroraeosrose>they wanted the OO without the frankenstein
15:52:12  <auroraeosrose>and yet... it's kinda weird
15:52:38  <vpovirk>I still really think C and C# combined have all the advantages of C++ and none of the disadvantages
15:53:12  <vpovirk>apart from there being existing C++ api's
16:02:57  <auroraeosrose>eh, my issue with C# is frankly that it's soooo tied to .NET on windows
16:10:29  * alkalineagrees w/ auroraeosrose
16:11:22  * FearTheCowboythinks that git doesn't do what I want it to do.
16:11:25  <virmitio>auroraeosrose & alkaline: you could always build a c# to native compiler
16:11:50  <auroraeosrose>virmitio: that would be kind of awesome
16:11:54  <FearTheCowboy>virmitio -> or just pray that Microsoft releases "redhawk"
16:11:58  <auroraeosrose>but writing compilers is a bitch
16:12:05  <auroraeosrose>oooh - what is redhawk ;)
16:12:27  <FearTheCowboy>it's a native C# compiler... a tiny bit of windows 8 was written with it.
16:14:50  <FearTheCowboy>if you look in c:\windows\system32\slr100.dll is part of the runtime library (do a dumpbin /exports on that)
16:15:59  <FearTheCowboy>I can't remember what the other dll was that had the majority of the libraries in it.. it's all obfuscated tho'
16:16:33  <FearTheCowboy>the other option, would be to have a javascript -> Native compiler.
16:16:40  <FearTheCowboy>then we could use typescript, and die happy.
16:32:07  <auroraeosrose>hmmmm
16:32:15  <auroraeosrose>LOL
16:32:22  <auroraeosrose>Javascript or Jscript ;)
16:32:23  <auroraeosrose>tee hee
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