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13:59:54  <madewokherd>You have reached the website for the CoApp package management system. Unfortunately, it appears to be temporarily unavailable.
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15:43:26  <madewokherd>ptk doesn't seem to be able to install packages for deps
15:43:45  <FearTheCowboy>hmm.
15:43:53  <FearTheCowboy>not at all?
15:44:19  <madewokherd>I haven't seen it work recently
15:44:47  <FearTheCowboy>Well, we're going to rectify that with our new developer packages, in a way that won't be as fragile.
15:45:13  <FearTheCowboy>I think this week's meeting will make everyone happier, and less scary than last weeks. :)
15:46:46  <madewokherd>when I run coapp upgrade it says "Conflict!" and then there's a stack trace
15:47:35  <FearTheCowboy>oh joy
15:48:01  <madewokherd>when I run coapp update it hangs
15:48:24  <virmitio>while it's hung, try restarting the service in another prompt?
15:48:28  <FearTheCowboy>yeah
15:48:32  <FearTheCowboy>that might be useful
15:49:08  <madewokherd>when I run coapp install cairo-dev[vc10]-1.12.2-x86-1e373a58e25250cb it installs it
15:49:24  <FearTheCowboy>well, at least something works.
15:50:08  <madewokherd>what's weird is that I didn't restart the service since the hang in coapp update
15:51:07  <madewokherd>and, yeah, restarting while it's hung makes it go
15:51:24  <madewokherd>or maybe I just needed to wait a while
15:51:34  <madewokherd>because it hasn't actually stopped yet
15:51:55  <madewokherd>upgrade still says conflict
15:54:09  <FearTheCowboy>oh ffs.
15:54:15  <FearTheCowboy>manaually install the right package I guess.
15:54:39  <madewokherd>I don't know what the conflict is about
15:54:54  <FearTheCowboy>do a coapp post-debug and I can take a look at the log
15:55:34  <madewokherd>done
15:58:19  <madewokherd>I'm ready to push a CoApp branch to pango
15:59:11  <virmitio>go ahead
16:00:20  <madewokherd>done
16:05:04  <FearTheCowboy>I can't see what's causing the conflict message.
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16:18:40  <madewokherd>how do I make a .lnk file in autopackage?
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16:23:17  <virmitio>shortcut: { files => @"${destination}\${each.NameWithoutExtension}.lnk"; };
16:23:38  <FearTheCowboy>Another important CoApp Conf Call 10:30 PDT (Good News!) LyncAttendee http://t.co/uvRTg2GG to connect to http://t.co/0rNOUdet (Join Anytime)
16:23:39  <virmitio>inside the "package-composition" rule
16:26:56  <madewokherd>is NameWithoutExtension a real thing?
16:27:09  <FearTheCowboy>I *think* so...
17:21:25  <FearTheCowboy>Another important CoApp Conf Call 10:30 PDT (Good News!) LyncAttendee http://t.co/uvRTg2GG to connect to http://t.co/0rNOUdet (Join Anytime) -- starts in 10 minutes
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20:34:04  <madewokherd>so apparently the problem I was having with pixman.dll not being found was some unknown random thing that went wrong on the build server and caused it to generate a bad manifest
20:34:41  <virmitio>joy
20:37:06  <madewokherd>bah, I hate that if I tell coapp to remove a package, it will fail instead of giving an option to remove the packages that need it
20:38:00  <madewokherd>nor will it tell me what the other package is
20:40:12  <madewokherd>"GS01: During package removal, things went horribly wrong...."
20:40:27  <virmitio>...
20:40:45  <madewokherd>I broke it
20:40:45  <virmitio>log an issue on github in the CoApp project
20:45:40  <madewokherd>aand now I changed the way it's broken
20:45:48  <virmitio>awesome
20:47:03  <virmitio>maybe do a "coapp post-debug 15" to grab all of the errors and add the token it gives you and further description to your issue on github
20:47:50  <madewokherd>I'm trying to grab the log from the failing process in each case
20:54:46  <madewokherd>is it possible to attach a file to the issue?
20:55:00  <madewokherd>if not, that kinda sucks
20:55:13  <virmitio>no idea, never tried
20:55:47  <madewokherd>what's the 15?
20:56:05  <virmitio>go back 15 minutes
20:56:28  <virmitio>was just wanting you to grab at least as far back as the first set of problems
20:56:39  * madewokherdmakes it 20
20:56:40  <virmitio>default with no numeric is 5 minutes
20:58:58  <madewokherd>I wonder if I should just run coapp.cleaner at this point
20:59:40  <virmitio>I suppose you could
20:59:58  <madewokherd>I wonder if it'll work
21:00:43  <virmitio>should
21:01:04  <madewokherd>even if something went horribly wrong?
21:01:11  <virmitio>if I recall, the cleaner doesn't actually use coapp to do the cleanup
21:01:37  <virmitio>and the whole reason for it was to clean up horrible messes
21:02:08  <madewokherd>sure is taking a long time to clean up this one
21:02:21  <virmitio>you have many packages installed?
21:02:47  <madewokherd>probably 40-50
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21:04:18  <madewokherd>oh, there it goes
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21:06:54  <madewokherd>now let's see if I can immediately screw this up again
21:07:44  <madewokherd>nope :(
21:08:54  <virmitio>obviously you're not trying hard enough
21:11:25  <madewokherd>and my dev library still doesn't work
21:11:43  <madewokherd>oh well
21:12:45  <madewokherd>next week: gtk
21:12:58  <madewokherd>......will surely continue to create problems for me
21:13:27  <virmitio>well, it wouldn't do for you life to be boring, would it?
21:13:51  <madewokherd>I'd get more stuff done
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