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17:33:42  <FearTheCowboy>I think with the release of VS2012, we've reached the breaking point where PTK desperately needs to be rewritten.
17:34:09  <FearTheCowboy>Too many assumptions changed with the way that the compiler/sdks/etc are laid out.
17:34:47  <FearTheCowboy>VS2012 is leaps and bounds better laid out than it's predecessors, but... not at all 'compatible'
17:36:15  <FearTheCowboy>and while we're changing things, I think we're going to explicity state the VC 7, 7.1 and 8 are not supported at all.
17:36:36  <FearTheCowboy>VC6 still has many uses, but for everything else, people should be getting into 9+
17:39:07  <auroraeosrose>ptk is ... ewwww
17:39:10  <auroraeosrose>and yes
17:39:26  <auroraeosrose>although, has everything migrated to 9?
17:39:36  <auroraeosrose>last I knew silly python was still on 8
17:40:00  <auroraeosrose>we MAY need to leave 8 in the loop a bit longer (I know, I know)
17:40:01  <virmitio>no idea, I haven't gotten there yet
17:40:09  <auroraeosrose>7 can die
17:40:10  <auroraeosrose>happily
17:40:15  <FearTheCowboy>hmm.
17:40:20  <FearTheCowboy>w3e can keep 8
17:40:32  <auroraeosrose>I'd say let's keep 8 for now
17:40:37  <FearTheCowboy>easy enough.
17:40:46  <FearTheCowboy>really 7 & 7.1 were the really bad ones
17:40:51  <auroraeosrose>7 and 7.1 are scary and bad
17:40:55  <auroraeosrose>LOL psych
17:41:10  <FearTheCowboy>so... sdks... 6, 7, 7.1, 8 ?
17:41:15  <auroraeosrose>I think we need to keep 8 until XP is dead dead dead
17:41:21  <ender`>hmm, how do i pin a shortcut to a text file to the new Start screen?
17:41:23  <auroraeosrose>um.... as long as we have vc6 support
17:41:24  <virmitio>7 and 7.1 are also the ones that are hardest to install on current systems
17:41:24  <auroraeosrose>OMG
17:41:30  <auroraeosrose>we need 2003 sdk
17:41:59  <FearTheCowboy>and feb2003
17:41:59  <auroraeosrose>for it
17:41:59  <auroraeosrose>LOL - yes, again psych
17:41:59  <FearTheCowboy>right.
17:41:59  <auroraeosrose>um, I'd say NOT 6
17:41:59  <auroraeosrose>6.1, 7. 7.1 and 8
17:41:59  <auroraeosrose>6 is HORRIBLE
17:42:06  <auroraeosrose>ewwwity ewwwity
17:42:11  <FearTheCowboy>ender` -> it doesn't pick up txt shortcuts in from the start menu folders?
17:42:49  <ender`>i had this shortcut at the top of my old start menu, but it wasn't anywhere else
17:43:12  <FearTheCowboy>ender` -> hmm. dunno really.
17:43:25  <ender`>i can find it with Search, but it doesn't give me the option to pin it...
17:44:15  <ender`>hmm
17:44:47  <FearTheCowboy>SDK 8 puts the usermode .lib (ie, all the standard win32 stuff) files in a subdirectory called "win8\um" ...
17:45:07  <FearTheCowboy>the win7\ folder only has the kernel mode lib subfolder.
17:45:44  <ender`>ok, found a way: create a shortcut in %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu, then you can pin that
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18:23:08  <ender`>my Windows 8 desktop: http://eternallybored.org/imgs/desktop2.png :)
18:26:01  <auroraeosrose>MEAB ;)
18:28:37  <ender|>haha
18:32:44  <auroraeosrose> /* FREE ALL THE THINGS */
18:32:44  <auroraeosrose> g_list_free_full(versions);
18:32:47  <auroraeosrose>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
18:32:50  <auroraeosrose>ahem, excuse me
19:07:46  <ender`>oh, found a way to install language packs from ISO: Win+R, lpksetup.exe
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20:35:37  <ender`>interesting bug in Win8: if you use a 3rd party utility to minimize a window to notification area, and then restore that window, it'll appear on the primary monitor taskbar, not on the monitor where the window is
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