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17:38:05  <FearTheCowboy>I'm thinking about crossing another line...
17:38:31  <FearTheCowboy>I'm considering putting a symlink for coapp.exe in the Windows\system32 folder
17:39:06  <FearTheCowboy>maybe just \windows ... since that's in the path.
17:39:10  <auroraeosrose>snortle!
17:39:55  <vpovirk>why?
17:40:08  <FearTheCowboy>when installing a package in a batch file for the first time (ie, on an azure deployment script) ... coapp can get installed, but there aint' no power in the 'verse that can alter the current CMD environment so that the script can then install other packages.
17:40:24  <FearTheCowboy>which sucks really bad.
17:40:46  <vpovirk>%PROGRAMDATA%\bin\coapp ...
17:41:26  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah. I can proabbly just live with that. kinda a PITA, but ... *sigh*
17:41:42  <FearTheCowboy>Windows is such a goofy operating system some days.
17:42:14  <vpovirk>that's a pretty normal limitation
17:43:19  <FearTheCowboy>I don't disagree... but coapp itself isn't exactly a 'normal' peice of software...
17:47:08  <FearTheCowboy>How about this: If coapp itself is being installed via `msiexec /quiet ` or `msiexec /passive` ... only then do I make the symlink.
17:47:44  <vpovirk>that's even worse
17:48:02  <FearTheCowboy>LOL
17:51:58  <FearTheCowboy>I promise, I'll just make it a symlink to %PROGRAMDATA%\bin\coapp.exe :D .... p-p-p-p-lease?
17:54:11  <vpovirk>wait, why wouldn't you link it into program files?
17:54:43  <vpovirk>I mean, why make it different from the symlinks in programdata/bin ?
17:55:30  <FearTheCowboy>actually, my symlink code always figures out real target of the symlink and hooks them up that way.
18:17:41  <wwahammy>is there any way to know when coapp is being installed via a batch script and when that script ends?
18:18:20  <wwahammy>if so, we could put the symlink into System32, finish the script and then remove it automatically
18:18:20  <FearTheCowboy>if you install coapp using "start /wait msiexec /passive coapp.msi" or "start /wait msiexec /quiet coapp.msi" ... then yes.
18:18:25  <FearTheCowboy>oh,
18:18:32  <FearTheCowboy>can't tell when the script is done tho'
18:18:39  <wwahammy>ya I didn't think so
18:19:16  <wwahammy>is there a way to force the script to restart?
18:19:27  <wwahammy>I'm thinking outside the box :)
18:19:29  <FearTheCowboy>no
18:19:42  <FearTheCowboy>Azure installs are painful enough as it is :)
18:20:59  <wwahammy>I mean I REALLY don't like the idea of putting anything into System32... that thing is just filled with so much shit
18:21:11  <FearTheCowboy>I don't disagree....
18:21:57  <FearTheCowboy>but... I'm gonna get complaints if we can't just install the coapp msi and then issue coapp install commands without having to specifiy the path to the tool.
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18:23:32  <wwahammy>are installing via standard batch but not powershell on Azure a requirement?
18:23:46  <wwahammy>Becuase there might be a way to do something weird using powershell to make it work
18:24:03  <wwahammy>like a way to signally a transaction or something
18:24:17  <FearTheCowboy>that'd have to be part of the script itself.
18:24:39  <FearTheCowboy>and really, someone could be using cmd scripts, powershell, vbscript, jscript...
18:24:46  <wwahammy>damn those people
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18:25:41  <wwahammy>well how about put a system32 symlink in for a certain period of time after a new version is installed, say 24 hours
18:25:51  <wwahammy>the service could remove it then
18:25:53  <FearTheCowboy>heh-heh
18:26:00  <FearTheCowboy>thought about that.
18:26:11  <FearTheCowboy>that's what we need. "expiring symlinks"
18:26:41  <wwahammy>seems like a lot of work though for only a limited amount of value
18:26:53  * vpovirkchecks whether cmd can run 'iexplore', sighs
18:27:50  <vpovirk>once you have a symlink there limiting its lifetime or the machines where it's created only makes it worse
18:32:24  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, I was only kidding about that.
18:34:07  <wwahammy>probably a good idea to only kid about that
19:04:54  <FearTheCowboy>FYI, "coapp post-debug" works now. you can send a debug log to me anytime, and tell me the 'token' it gives you back
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21:48:13  <ender`>yay: http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2012/06/bad-couple-of-years-for-cryptographic.html
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