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14:01:24  <virmitio>did we ever get a build of m4 working that didn't require using mingw?
14:02:16  <vpovirk>I didn't know we needed one
14:03:13  <auroraeosrose>?
14:03:21  <auroraeosrose>the autotools stuff works fine without mingw ;)
14:03:29  <auroraeosrose>put microsoft's compiler/linker in the path
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14:38:28  <virmitio>auroraeosrose: yes, it works fine with VC in the path, as long as I also define ld=link.exe, but I still need to run it from an msys prompt, which I'm rather loath to do if I can avoid it
14:39:47  <auroraeosrose>eh, you're not going to get around that
14:39:52  <auroraeosrose>unfortunately
14:40:07  <auroraeosrose>you need msys to use autotools, you don't need mingw though
14:40:29  <auroraeosrose>this is what I was whining about to FearTheCowboy earlier - configuration on windows is sucktastic
14:40:40  <auroraeosrose>it's a little better for cmake projects, but autotools is still HIGHLY dominant
14:41:01  <virmitio>now if only I could convince the ./configure scripts to spit out nmake files instead...
14:41:38  <virmitio>brb, going to grab breakfast
14:42:31  <auroraeosrose>virmitio: that might be a fun project
14:42:36  <auroraeosrose>autotools -> nmake generator ;)
14:43:58  <vpovirk>silly thought: any program that wants unix-ish commands should SetDllDirectory %ProgramData%\msys-bin
14:44:22  <vpovirk>I guess that won't help with creating processes
14:45:10  <vpovirk>and if it did it'd probably confuse them, never mind
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15:18:07  <bob>yeah my laptop doesn't really need more help being confused.
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20:49:42  <wwahammy>@virmitio are we sure we want to give people the ability to trigger builds at will?
20:50:31  <virmitio>we already do that by having the post-receive hooks on github
20:51:34  <virmitio>my only potential concern is about the publish option, but I'm going away for a while and I don't really want everyone else to be at a standstill on packaging just because I'm not around to push a button
20:52:12  <wwahammy>fair enough
20:52:34  <wwahammy>the advantage of the post-receive hooks though is that only authorized users can trigger it
20:52:42  <wwahammy>with this ANYONE can
20:52:53  <auroraeosrose>hmmm
20:52:59  <auroraeosrose>any way we can limit the stable builds?
20:53:10  <wwahammy>it's not an immediate concern but maybe something to think about when you get back
20:53:12  <auroraeosrose>I would say "screw it" for the bleeding edge stuff (unstable)
20:54:49  <virmitio>auroraeosrose: can you clarify? wwahammy: It looks like a rough patched-together mess because right now it's a rough patched-together mess.
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20:55:45  <wwahammy>I figured virmitio, it's still hella-cool
20:56:18  <virmitio>I fully expect to make significant changes to how AutoBuild interacts and responds to people, but I really didn't want to have new packaging grind to a stop just so I can visit family
20:57:06  <wwahammy>how dare you visit your family! The open source community shuns you! Shuns you I say!
20:57:20  <virmitio>and before I slapped this together, the only way to initiate a build without having it come from the hook was for me to plug commands into the 'immediate' window on the server
20:58:06  <virmitio>yeah... really don't care about the shunning. I've had worse.
20:58:09  <auroraeosrose>LOL
20:58:26  <wwahammy>does this work to build the gui too?
20:58:35  <virmitio>should, have you tried?
20:58:57  <virmitio>just plug in "build=gui"
20:59:08  <wwahammy>I'll try that
20:59:30  <wwahammy>yep, seems to work
20:59:31  <virmitio>and you can check the status and log with their respecting commands
20:59:40  <virmitio>*respective
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21:00:26  <wwahammy>so do the commit hooks still work?
21:00:31  <virmitio>yep
21:00:44  <wwahammy>sweet
21:00:48  <virmitio>didn't change them at all. a push to a hooked repo will still build it
21:01:17  <wwahammy>I have to say, this is pretty slick
21:01:21  <virmitio>this just lets someone add and build a repo that I haven't hooked yet
21:01:33  <wwahammy>cool, cool
21:01:35  <virmitio>and also lets folks see the logs themselves when the build fails
21:02:11  <virmitio>mostly I just tacked on outside access to what I'm already seeing every day with it
21:02:41  <wwahammy>if worse comes to worse, does Garrett have access to this machine?
21:03:33  <virmitio>yep
21:03:43  <wwahammy>good, good
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