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12:51:36  <madewokherd>Error: Package Failed Install coapp:coapp.devtools-1.2.0-272-any-1e373a58e25250cb => One or more dependencies are unable to be resolved.
12:52:04  <FearTheCowboy>try grabbing .277
12:52:13  <madewokherd>worked when I did coapp --scan update
12:52:32  <FearTheCowboy>hmm.
12:52:34  <FearTheCowboy>one sec
12:52:57  <madewokherd>probably because I ended up with .275
12:53:00  <FearTheCowboy>ah
12:53:06  <FearTheCowboy>yeh, 275 is the most recent.
12:53:17  <FearTheCowboy>wonder what the hell .272 is about then.
12:53:34  <madewokherd>ok actually it didn't finish because it upgraded coapp then quit
12:53:39  <auroraeosrose>Patrick starts work for me on monday (hurray, in house minion)
12:53:42  <FearTheCowboy>can you do a 'coapp show-debug > log.txt' and post that in a gist?
12:53:45  <FearTheCowboy>ah
12:54:06  <FearTheCowboy>yeah, I spent a lot of time on the service restart this week, hopefully that won't be a problem after this
12:54:36  <madewokherd>um, is there any point if it's just a broken old package?
12:54:39  <FearTheCowboy>no
12:54:44  <FearTheCowboy>not really.
12:54:50  <FearTheCowboy>if it happens again, yeah.
13:05:32  <madewokherd>now I've got a hung autopackage.exe running
13:06:13  <FearTheCowboy>:(
13:06:17  <FearTheCowboy>dammit.
13:06:35  <FearTheCowboy>kill it, try again ?
13:06:46  <madewokherd>tried that already
13:06:52  <FearTheCowboy>you can also do a coapp show-debug anytime to dumb the debug info
13:07:05  <madewokherd>I have no idea what that's supposed to tell me
13:07:18  <FearTheCowboy>well you can post that, and I can see what it's doing.
13:11:10  <madewokherd>http://tinypaste.com/6acc75f7
13:13:35  <FearTheCowboy>hmm. it's not hung up on a call (that's nice :) .. but sadly doesn't say much :(
13:15:38  * madewokherdattaches VS2010 to the process and gets nothing
13:17:52  <FearTheCowboy>kill it; I'll have to see if I can replicate it later this morning when I'm fully awake.
13:18:06  <FearTheCowboy>it's like 6:17 here. I'm still way to tired :S
13:18:28  <madewokherd>one of the worker threads is in a wait in CoApp.Packaging.Client.Session.ProcessMessages
13:18:44  <madewokherd>which actually kinda makes me want to debug this
13:18:56  <madewokherd>I wonder if I can build devtools now
13:23:54  <madewokherd>nope
13:35:50  <FearTheCowboy>remove the oauth tool and the repository service from the solution and it should build
13:36:08  <FearTheCowboy>I'll be removing the repository stuff out soon
13:36:15  <FearTheCowboy>anyway
13:36:20  <FearTheCowboy>and the oauth tool too.
13:37:43  <madewokherd>ha VS2010 won't let me open the solution
13:38:09  <FearTheCowboy>huh?
13:38:18  <FearTheCowboy>I can with vs2010 or vs2012
13:38:28  <FearTheCowboy>I just did a clean clone and opened it with 2010
13:38:31  <madewokherd>"The selected file is a solution file, but was created by a newer version of this application and cannot be opened."
13:38:39  * auroraeosrosefrowns
13:39:12  <FearTheCowboy>go change the first line of the sln to use format version 11.00
13:39:18  <madewokherd>anyway it's failing in native-bootstrap
13:39:22  <FearTheCowboy>ak
13:39:23  <FearTheCowboy>ah
13:39:29  <FearTheCowboy>you don't have the wdk installed?
13:39:34  <FearTheCowboy>(driver kit)
13:39:49  <madewokherd>I don't think so
13:40:51  <FearTheCowboy>http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=11800
13:40:54  <FearTheCowboy>it's not too big
13:50:35  <FearTheCowboy>I gotta run a couple errands. I'll be back in a few hours or
14:09:02  <madewokherd>oh I just realized my .autopkg is broken
14:14:34  <madewokherd>still hangs though
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14:40:48  <FearTheCowboy>It shouldn't *hang* , hopefully we can find out what causes that.
14:41:28  <FearTheCowboy>So, I was doing work on the repository service yesterday... I use the Azure Storage c# library to upload stuff to the Azure CDN.
14:41:49  <FearTheCowboy>They have the ability to put a lock on a blob (called a 'lease')
14:41:54  <auroraeosrose>FearTheCowboy: why in the world do ALL the azure sdk libraries suck like rotten banana peels?
14:42:10  <FearTheCowboy>but none of their f*ing APIs in the library actually support using the f'ing lease
14:42:20  <auroraeosrose>LOL - exactly!
14:42:23  <auroraeosrose>they all SUCK SUCK
14:42:31  <auroraeosrose>you can so tell JAVA engineers wrote the PHP ones
14:42:33  * auroraeosroseshudders
14:42:35  <FearTheCowboy>auroraeosrose ... I can only surmise that they are completely and totally incompetent
14:43:01  <FearTheCowboy>what the f is the point of having a lease/lock on a resource that I can't modify when it's locked?
14:43:05  <FearTheCowboy>god dammit so much
14:43:17  <virmitio>FearTheCowboy: that requires assumption? I thought that was well-established fact.
14:43:28  <FearTheCowboy>lucklly their storage library is oss on github.
14:43:39  <auroraeosrose>that's good
14:43:40  <FearTheCowboy>took me 20 minutes to patch EVER FUCKING API to use the lease
14:43:47  <auroraeosrose>HAHAH FearTheCowboy
14:43:53  <FearTheCowboy>No idea why that's not in there
14:43:56  <auroraeosrose>yeah... the php one is OSS too which is good!
14:44:05  <auroraeosrose>except that... it needs a total revamp in architecture
14:44:08  <auroraeosrose>not just patches
14:44:12  <virmitio>FearTheCowboy: did you issue a pull request for your changes?
14:44:14  <auroraeosrose>that would be a fun pull request
14:44:15  <FearTheCowboy>the REST interface that they talk to have supported the lease for frickin' ever
14:44:22  <auroraeosrose>delete all, replace with this
14:44:27  <FearTheCowboy>no way. they want it, they can get it from the coapp project
14:44:30  <FearTheCowboy>f'em .
14:44:35  <auroraeosrose>hehehe
14:44:40  <auroraeosrose>HAHAHAHAH
14:44:41  <auroraeosrose>ahem
14:44:43  <FearTheCowboy>I'm not doing their job for them
14:45:07  <auroraeosrose>no doubt, unless you get their funds as well ;)
14:45:08  <FearTheCowboy>Actually , it took me longer to determine that they didn't even use the lease than to fix the problem
14:45:27  <virmitio>but then you would get the credit for the fix, and the record would be in every future clone of the repo
14:45:55  <FearTheCowboy>yeah, well, looking at their source, I get the feeling that my coding style would not suit them
14:46:12  <auroraeosrose>LOL
14:46:19  <FearTheCowboy>I try to make it work how I want to use it, not how they think the REST API works.
14:46:40  <FearTheCowboy>I added in a bunch of extensions that I had anyway directly into the objects.
14:46:48  <FearTheCowboy>now, my version doesn't suck ass (as much)
14:47:46  <FearTheCowboy>as it is, they still don't have a way to get upload/download progress for pushing blobs
14:47:49  <FearTheCowboy>mine does.
14:48:06  <FearTheCowboy>I asked them to add that a year ago. no dice.
14:48:26  <virmitio>are we going to package up your rewritten version?
14:48:31  <FearTheCowboy>YEP
14:48:42  <virmitio>good to know
14:48:43  <FearTheCowboy>I'll do that later today.
14:48:46  <auroraeosrose>azure sdk non-suck
14:48:48  <auroraeosrose>LOL
14:48:51  <FearTheCowboy>YEAP
14:49:18  <FearTheCowboy>Now, with less Rhino Snot.
14:49:52  <madewokherd>well print statement debugging shows it's in PackageManager.GetAllVersionsOfPackage
14:50:44  <FearTheCowboy>madewokherd -> hmm. ok; I'll take a peek when I get back to my desk (getting a fix on my car right now)
14:51:18  <FearTheCowboy>I dunno what they did to RDP in win 8, but it feels a ton snappier than before.
14:51:39  <FearTheCowboy>I'm using my laptop tethered to my cel phone, and remoted into my pc at home
14:51:45  <FearTheCowboy>and it feels pretty good.
14:51:58  <FearTheCowboy>except for the single, tiny screen :D
14:52:36  <FearTheCowboy>fully supported tethering is one of the virtues of T-Mobile I guess
14:53:15  <auroraeosrose>I would be content with someone to give me internet without 1. lots of cable channels I never use or 2. lots of minutes/messaging I never use that didn't also 3. rape me for tethering
14:53:32  <auroraeosrose>we pay for 3g and we get edge
14:53:38  * auroraeosrosehisses
14:53:40  <FearTheCowboy>:(
14:54:59  <FearTheCowboy>The fact they let me tether, may actually keep me on T-Mobile ... But I really don't use the feature that much.
14:55:14  <FearTheCowboy>although, when I get a win8 (x86) tablet, maybe I will...
14:55:48  <auroraeosrose>yeah, I have my tablet that's wifi only but it would be nice to tether when I'm out of the house on it
14:55:51  * auroraeosrosesighs
14:58:39  <virmitio>I've been pretty happy with running through my android phone on Sprint. The phone doesn't differentiate the tethered data from its own data use, so I didn't need to add anything special to the phone plan, either.
14:59:25  <virmitio>not sure I'd want to try using it for online gaming, but it works well enough for anything else I've tried
15:00:59  <FearTheCowboy>fyi, folks... if you have a problem with coapp, you dont' have to run dbgview anymore
15:01:37  <FearTheCowboy>you can just use 'coapp show-debug' at the command line and it will dump the last five minutes of the debug log
15:02:10  <FearTheCowboy>and after I upload the new site later today, you can use 'coapp post-debug' and it'll post that to the web site so we can look at the logs.
15:02:41  <FearTheCowboy>and coapp clear-debug will empty the debug log
15:14:18  <FearTheCowboy>Outercurve is looking for a community evangelist: http://t.co/tBP86S6n Please pass it on #opensource
15:16:00  <madewokherd>do you have some "spam everything" command, or is your irc client just somehow linked to your twitter?
15:16:07  <FearTheCowboy>lol
15:16:12  <FearTheCowboy>no, cut & paste :)
15:16:52  <FearTheCowboy>I've played with making an irc :: twitter client
15:16:59  <FearTheCowboy>but haven't taken it far.
15:17:28  <FearTheCowboy>on one hand, it'd be kind neat to treat Twitter as an IRC channel.
15:17:43  <FearTheCowboy>and, in some ways, it'd be nice to use IRC as twitter.
15:18:16  <virmitio>that could turn into a really confusing conversation to read from either direction, though
15:18:39  <FearTheCowboy>yeah, that's the conclusion I came to
15:19:41  <FearTheCowboy>you'd have to have some sort of convention for what gets posted one way or the other, and with Twitter, that's precious characters
15:20:14  <FearTheCowboy>although, maybe starting a line in twitter with #<channelname> would be an interesting way to do it.
15:20:36  <FearTheCowboy>but then you'd have to have the bot constantly tweeting everything else back from the channel
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15:58:24  <madewokherd>CoApp branch pushed to atk and libtool
16:00:21  <virmitio>hooks set, are they both ready to build right now?
16:02:29  <madewokherd>yes
16:02:48  <madewokherd>I've got a theory on why autopackage hung
16:04:01  <madewokherd>I think it's because I still have .msi packages around from the old world
16:09:05  <madewokherd>ok maybe not
16:09:08  <virmitio>libtool and atk are up
16:13:35  <madewokherd>nope, still hung, now on a different package :(
16:18:39  <wwahammy>@Virmitio: can you make a package for the CoApp GUI?
16:20:43  <virmitio>running
16:23:30  <virmitio>gui package is up
16:29:40  <virmitio>#CoApp Weekly Conf Call 10:30 PDT (60mins from now) Connect w/Lync Attendee http://t.co/9jkXNIZU to http://t.co/Xt87bzfj Join Anytime
16:36:38  <madewokherd>CoApp branch pushed to gdk-pixbuf
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16:39:51  <wwahammy>sweet :)
16:40:17  <auroraeosrose>sweet
17:21:24  <virmitio>#CoApp Weekly Conf Call 10:30 PDT (10 mins from now) Connect w/Lync Attendee http://t.co/9jkXNIZU to http://t.co/Xt87bzfj Join Anytime
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19:39:31  <madewokherd>haha, how silly of me to think someone had made a sane set of build files
19:39:43  <auroraeosrose>LOLOL
19:40:33  <madewokherd>the outputs are, of course, completely different depending whether you're building for x86 or x86_64
19:40:49  <auroraeosrose>ook
19:40:59  <wwahammy>@fearthecowboy: the updater is setting the feeds to stale but they're coapp isn't redownloading them
19:44:08  <madewokherd>so my build command will just be one big if statement
19:44:09  <madewokherd>but that's ok
19:45:26  <madewokherd>oh and also one of the build scripts modifies a tracked file
19:47:26  <virmitio>madewokherd: so you're saying that everything's pretty much normal?
19:48:02  <madewokherd>apart from the fact that I'm bothering with x64, yes
19:48:17  <virmitio>I suppose that's fair
19:48:48  <virmitio>though you should really be trying to get x64 to build for everything anyway
19:48:53  <virmitio>at least in theory
19:50:25  <madewokherd>I'd rather wait until I have a good way to do multiple platforms/compilers at least
20:10:21  <madewokherd>sigh
20:10:33  <madewokherd>dll on x86 is named gc.dll
20:10:47  <virmitio>?
20:10:48  <madewokherd>on x64 it's named gc64_dll.dll
20:10:54  <virmitio>...
20:11:50  <madewokherd>either I have to hack the build to name it the same thing, or I just have to do x64 separately
20:15:28  <auroraeosrose>heh
20:15:32  <auroraeosrose>hack the build, hack the build!
20:15:40  <madewokherd>yep
20:15:47  <virmitio>that's my vote
20:15:49  <madewokherd>fortunately it's just find/replace
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20:23:56  <madewokherd>so autopackage boilerplate refers to http://coapp.org/repository/packages.atom.xml
20:24:41  <madewokherd>which doesn't seem to work
20:25:25  <madewokherd>and I have to wonder about http://coapp.org/repository/${OutputFilename}
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20:34:03  <virmitio>auroraeosrose1: throw a rock at me when you get back
20:34:09  <auroraeosrose1>I"m here
20:34:11  <auroraeosrose1>I'm here
20:34:13  * auroraeosrose1changed nick to auroraeosrose
20:34:24  <virmitio>thought you had to run away to something around now?
20:35:10  <auroraeosrose>nah, that was an hour ago, it's over now ;)
20:35:15  <auroraeosrose>we're on EDT right now ;)
20:35:26  <virmitio>ah
20:38:50  <virmitio>sorry, give me just a sec and then I want to pick your brain
20:40:27  <auroraeosrose>okie dokie
20:40:32  <auroraeosrose>I be happy to help!
20:57:01  * virmitioprods auroraeosrose
20:59:01  <auroraeosrose>coming , coming
20:59:09  <virmitio>a likely story
21:06:28  <bob>hah
21:13:25  <auroraeosrose>https://github.com/php/php-src
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22:34:44  <bob>who was the goon that named it "The PHP Interpreter"
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