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00:04:24  <Scotis>so the package xml is not in the website code anymore?
00:04:37  <Scotis>err wait
00:04:40  <Scotis>never was
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00:12:09  <FearTheCowboy>it's also at http://coapp.org/proxy/feed
00:12:34  <FearTheCowboy>which gets it same-domain (via back end proxy to the feed server itself)
00:12:48  <Scotis>ok - it is currently referencing /proxy/packages.xml
00:12:50  <FearTheCowboy>actually, the best location is http://coapp.org/proxy/current.xml
00:12:57  <Scotis>so i should use /proxy/current.xml instead
00:13:01  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah
00:13:05  <Scotis>cool
00:13:13  <FearTheCowboy>if you need the archive feed it'll be at http://coapp.org/proxy/archive.xml
00:13:33  <Scotis>great
00:17:58  <Scotis>you not using categories anymore?
00:18:06  <FearTheCowboy>hmmm.
00:18:25  <Scotis>was in the xml before...
00:18:27  <Scotis>1 sec
00:18:32  <FearTheCowboy>we've still got them... I just don't think we have any right this minute
00:18:42  <Scotis>ex: <category term="green" label="green" scheme="/Tags" />
00:18:47  <Scotis>ah
00:18:51  <Scotis>k
00:19:02  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, I just don't have a package iwth that in there. they haven't changed tho'
00:19:08  <Scotis>cool
00:22:26  <Scotis>what is PackageType used forin coapp:Package ?
00:24:45  <FearTheCowboy>Oh. we're looking to support other package types in the future. the packageType is what kind of package it is, so "coapp" or (future, "python
00:24:55  <FearTheCowboy>or "node" )...
00:24:55  <Scotis>ok
00:24:56  <FearTheCowboy>etc
00:25:02  <Scotis>so nothing i need to worry about for now
00:25:05  <FearTheCowboy>likely we'll only have coapp packages in the feed
00:25:07  <FearTheCowboy>yeah
00:25:35  <Scotis>i won't affect how things are display on the website right now at least
00:25:40  <FearTheCowboy>ok
00:25:59  <Scotis>if in the future we want to put a badge next to things from coapp vs node or whatever
00:26:04  <Scotis>then we'd use it then i guess
00:26:20  <FearTheCowboy>Sure. If we have anything like that in the feed itself.
00:29:09  <Scotis>did you guys come up w/ a name for what we were calling 'variants' of a pacakges? ie the '-dev' and '-dev-common' packages
00:29:26  <FearTheCowboy>:O ... no, not yet
00:29:31  <Scotis>ok
00:31:08  <Scotis>i'll just keep calling them variations until someone tells me differently
00:31:11  <FearTheCowboy>sure
00:31:36  <Scotis>right now i have 'dev' 'dev-common' 'common' and 'core' as possible variations
00:31:41  <Scotis>any other ones i should know about?
00:34:43  <Scotis>looks like you also changed the BindingPolicy
00:34:52  <Scotis>used to be bindingPolicyMinVersion and bindingPolicyMaxVersion
00:35:04  <Scotis>now just BindingPolicy with attributes inside
00:35:06  <Scotis>yes?
00:35:10  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah
00:35:13  <Scotis>cool
00:35:53  <FearTheCowboy>It's hard to remember all the things that got changed. I completely rewrote all the serialization and cross-process communications in the last six weeks
00:35:56  <FearTheCowboy>:S
00:36:06  <Scotis>woah!
00:36:07  <FearTheCowboy>that had a lot of cascading effects
00:36:12  <Scotis>yeah no problem - i'm just confirming things i see
00:36:13  <Scotis>:)
00:36:19  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, along with massive refactoring all over the place.
00:36:28  <Scotis>fun times! ;)
00:37:04  <FearTheCowboy>my Month of may:
00:37:05  <FearTheCowboy> 364 files modified
00:37:05  <FearTheCowboy> 45871 lines added
00:37:05  <FearTheCowboy> 21782 lines removed
00:37:33  <Scotis>woah! that's some good work sir!
00:38:00  <Scotis>i feel like i should take you out for a beer for that effort!
00:38:15  <FearTheCowboy>I dunno how long I can keep up that pace :)
00:38:22  <Scotis>yeah seriously
00:38:23  <FearTheCowboy>but, the changes are working really nice now.
00:38:30  <Scotis>good! always nice :)
00:38:36  <FearTheCowboy>Indeed. I'm quite excited.
00:38:42  <Scotis>you're in Redmond area yes?
00:38:48  <FearTheCowboy>Yep
00:39:13  <Scotis>yeah i'm in seattle - be fun to do a get together when this thing get to 1.0 RTW
00:40:09  <FearTheCowboy>That will be fun.
00:40:18  <Scotis>did i see that Mr. Rivera might be moving up here?
00:40:23  <FearTheCowboy>I'm hoping to hit that by the end of june
00:40:24  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah,
00:40:36  <FearTheCowboy>He's coming up to look for housing this month some time.
00:40:45  <FearTheCowboy>his GF is doing her PHD at UW
00:40:59  <Scotis>cool
00:41:18  <Scotis>sux for him - because now you can drive over to his house and wake him up :]
00:42:03  <FearTheCowboy>LOL
00:42:04  <FearTheCowboy>yeah
00:42:23  <Scotis>no more shouting on twitter - now shouting IRL
00:48:08  <Scotis>http://api.jquery.com is down - hmm
00:49:12  <FearTheCowboy>hmm
00:49:14  <FearTheCowboy>that's weird.
00:56:46  <Scotis>ok - describe Dependencies for me
00:56:55  <Scotis>used to be:
00:57:01  <Scotis> <coapp:Dependencies>
00:57:01  <Scotis> <coapp:guid>09e6aaee-9415-0e25-efa2-07f9b374fd41</coapp:guid>
00:57:01  <Scotis> </coapp:Dependencies>
00:57:09  <Scotis>now:
00:57:11  <Scotis> <coapp:Dependencies>
00:57:12  <Scotis> <item key="coapp:coapp-1.2.0.364-any-1e373a58e25250cb">
00:57:12  <Scotis> <coapp:List>
00:57:12  <Scotis> <coapp:Uri>http://coapp.org/current/</coapp:Uri>
00:57:12  <Scotis> <coapp:Uri>http://coapp.org/current</coapp:Uri>
00:57:12  <Scotis> </coapp:List>
00:57:12  <Scotis> </item>
00:57:13  <Scotis> </coapp:Dependencies>
00:57:24  <Scotis>what is the List for?
00:57:41  <FearTheCowboy>the 'key' is the dependency itself, the list is the list of feeds it can be found
00:57:56  <Scotis>ok cool
00:57:59  <Scotis>tx!
00:58:02  <FearTheCowboy>this lets coapp know 'about' a dependency, without requireing it to get all the infor before it needs it.
00:58:14  <Scotis>yeah ok
01:20:03  <Scotis>are you using a newer version of bootstrap?
01:20:05  <Scotis>now?
01:27:26  <FearTheCowboy>oh, no not yet.
01:27:39  <FearTheCowboy>I have done nearly nothing on the site in six weeks.
01:27:46  <FearTheCowboy>should we upgrade it?
01:34:52  <Scotis>no
01:35:01  <Scotis>just wondering why my modals stopped working
01:35:04  <Scotis>and my tabs
01:35:14  <Scotis>hmm
01:35:36  <FearTheCowboy>I don't think I've touched anything. (other than disablign the feed for a few weeks)
01:36:56  <Scotis>ok
01:37:02  <Scotis>wierd
01:37:10  <FearTheCowboy>Hmm. the new bootstrap is way more streamlined. acutally pretty nice.
01:37:41  <FearTheCowboy>Everything is in a single css and a single js file
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01:58:22  <Scotis>oh i know why now i think
01:58:44  <Scotis>stupid jquery doesn't handle colons in IDs :|
01:58:55  <Scotis>since they are no longer GUIDs
01:59:00  <Scotis>they are the cononicalnames
01:59:08  <FearTheCowboy>urg!
01:59:09  <Scotis>have colons and dots and stuff
01:59:12  <Scotis>grr
01:59:13  <FearTheCowboy>that's odd.
01:59:30  <FearTheCowboy>fyi, I'm gonna try and update to bootstrap 2
01:59:39  <Scotis>ok ahhh
01:59:48  <Scotis>could you keep around 1.4 for me somewhere
02:00:02  <Scotis>so i don't have to figure out how to update my stuff to 2.0 just yet
02:00:05  <FearTheCowboy>don't think I should break anything you're doing.
02:00:16  <Scotis>the modal and tabs stuff didn't change?
02:00:20  <FearTheCowboy>there's only a bit that needs updating.
02:00:24  <FearTheCowboy>hmm. lemme check
02:01:12  <Scotis>looks like modal is a little different
02:01:36  <FearTheCowboy>well, you continue on, I'll hold off pushing this up until you're done, and then I'll merge that
02:01:41  <FearTheCowboy>and I'll fix what I break.
02:02:03  <Scotis>ok
02:02:05  <Scotis>i can figure it out
02:02:11  <Scotis>just don't want to do it right now :|
02:02:15  <FearTheCowboy>no problem
02:02:27  <FearTheCowboy>I think I gotta fix my navbar stuff first anyway.
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02:23:45  <Scotis>ok i've got most things fixed up
02:23:52  <Scotis>will commit this weekend sometime
02:37:52  <Scotis>ok pull request sent
02:39:31  <FearTheCowboy>ok
02:39:39  <FearTheCowboy>I'll merge that after I get back from supper.
02:39:41  <FearTheCowboy>thanks!
02:44:56  <Scotis>np!
02:45:06  <Scotis>sent you a tweet about something you could do tonight
02:45:12  <Scotis>if you are bored
02:45:44  <Scotis>ok leaving now - tweet back if you need directions or whatever
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