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14:10:22  <wwahammy>hey, do you have links to the latest versions of toolkit and devtools?
14:13:19  <FearTheCowboy>one sec...
14:14:04  <FearTheCowboy>still .228 / .119:
14:14:05  <FearTheCowboy>CoApp:
14:14:05  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.228-any.msi
14:14:05  <FearTheCowboy>Devtools:
14:14:05  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.119-any.msi
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14:16:23  <wwahammy>hmm, I can't build packages
14:16:28  <wwahammy>let me look at it a bit more
14:16:39  <FearTheCowboy>what's it failing on?
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14:17:27  <wwahammy>it's in autopackage
14:18:02  <wwahammy>Error: Exception Caught: A task was canceled.
14:18:02  <wwahammy> Use --help for command line assistance.
14:18:02  <wwahammy>Error: Exception Caught: One or more errors occurred.
14:18:02  <wwahammy> at System.Threading.Tasks.Task`1.GetResultCore(Boolean waitCompletionNotifica
14:18:02  <wwahammy>tion)
14:18:02  <wwahammy> at CoApp.Autopackage.AutopackageModel.ProcessDependencyInformation()
14:18:03  <wwahammy> at CoApp.Autopackage.AutopackageMain.CreatePackageModel()
14:18:03  <wwahammy> at CoApp.Autopackage.AutopackageMain.Main(IEnumerable`1 args)
14:18:04  <wwahammy> Use --help for command line assistance.
14:18:04  <wwahammy>Error: Command Exited with value 1
14:18:15  <FearTheCowboy>ooh.
14:19:17  <FearTheCowboy>hmm.
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14:19:43  <FearTheCowboy>you have a dependency on an package (that has to be rebuilt with the new engine)?
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14:20:50  <wwahammy>nope
14:21:04  <wwahammy>in debug watch, I have three lines that say this:
14:21:06  <FearTheCowboy>you have *no* dependencies ?
14:21:10  <wwahammy>none
14:21:12  <wwahammy>«Information/Autopackage»-Response:[3]PermissionRequired?policyRequired=EditSystemFeeds&rqid=3&
14:21:26  <wwahammy>I shouldn't need that
14:21:34  <wwahammy>to build a package
14:21:42  <FearTheCowboy>hmm
14:21:59  <FearTheCowboy>lemme see where I'm checking for that policy
14:22:27  <wwahammy>I'm running as admin right now to make sure that's the problem
14:22:44  <wwahammy>ya, that's it
14:22:58  <FearTheCowboy>yeah, I see what's going on.
14:23:18  <FearTheCowboy>hmmm...
14:23:36  <wwahammy>although, I'm still getting the following error in the command line output: Missing Dependency Information coapp
14:23:56  <FearTheCowboy>that's cosmetic
14:24:00  <FearTheCowboy>removed in the next build
14:24:02  <wwahammy>also there's at least one error in the debug output
14:24:07  <wwahammy>«Error/CoApp Service»-System.NullReferenceException - Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
14:24:15  <wwahammy>»RawData: at CoApp.Packaging.Service.PackageManagerImpl.PackageInformation(IPackageManagerResponse response, Package package, IEnumerable`1 supercedents)
14:24:15  <FearTheCowboy>that's not cool tho
14:24:15  <wwahammy>» at CoApp.Packaging.Service.PackageManagerImpl.<>c__DisplayClass8a.<RecognizeFile>b__89(Task`1 antecedent)
14:24:15  <wwahammy>» at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute()
14:24:35  <FearTheCowboy>can I get the whole dbgview output
14:25:03  <wwahammy>ya I'll post it on gist
14:25:27  <wwahammy>https://gist.github.com/b819359fb35813b91f9c
14:27:17  <FearTheCowboy>did you rebuild commonservicelocator?
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14:27:58  <wwahammy>yes
14:29:11  <FearTheCowboy>I *think* I see our problem...
14:29:12  <FearTheCowboy>hmmm.
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14:30:20  <wwahammy>I can't install the package either
14:30:28  <wwahammy>I think it's the same problem though
14:30:35  <FearTheCowboy>can't install commonservicelocator?
14:30:46  <wwahammy>nope
14:31:22  <wwahammy>https://gist.github.com/121bbfbf8cf01c4a43d4
14:32:23  <FearTheCowboy>can you send me the package?
14:32:29  <wwahammy>sure
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14:32:44  <FearTheCowboy>I wonder if dcc on irc works these days
14:33:11  <wwahammy>I emailed it to your MS email
14:33:29  <wwahammy>we won't get a chance to find out about dcc sadly
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14:35:14  <FearTheCowboy>ah ok.
14:35:19  <FearTheCowboy>I see what's wrong here.
14:35:25  <wwahammy>sweet
14:35:42  <FearTheCowboy>We don't have a binding policy, and there is a line that doesn't check for null
14:36:12  <wwahammy>ah
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14:38:33  <FearTheCowboy>gimme a couple minutes, and I'll build a new one
14:56:54  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.234-any.msi
14:56:55  <FearTheCowboy>and
14:56:58  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.124-any.msi
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15:03:36  <wwahammy>no dice
15:03:41  <FearTheCowboy>WHAT!?
15:03:55  <wwahammy>still can't build as regular user and still get the same error when installing
15:04:02  <wwahammy>and building
15:04:32  <FearTheCowboy>I would have thought I would have fixed one of those.
15:04:38  <FearTheCowboy>o_O
15:05:12  <wwahammy>should I have done a clean?
15:05:21  <wwahammy>run the cleaner I mean
15:06:01  <FearTheCowboy>shouldn't have to
15:08:30  <FearTheCowboy>ahaaaa!
15:08:55  * virmitiotakes a drink
15:09:06  <auroraeosrose>no - TWO drinks
15:09:13  * FearTheCowboyslaps virmitio with a fish
15:09:15  * virmitiotakes ANOTHER drink
15:10:16  <FearTheCowboy>I changed how I used CheckForPermission... and now see I have two different uses for that call.
15:10:18  <FearTheCowboy><smirk>
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15:35:29  <GarrettS-MSFT>Got bluescreen'd on a UAC prompt. Now *that's* cold.
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15:36:06  <virmitio>sometimes, they really are out to get you
15:36:34  <fearthecowboy>anyone know of a command line tool to do a quick one-line post to an IRC channel
15:36:42  <fearthecowboy>that isn't written in god-damn python?
15:37:39  <auroraeosrose>haha
15:38:26  <virmitio>not yet?
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15:42:34  <fearthecowboy>wwahammy
15:42:34  <fearthecowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.237-any.msi
15:42:37  <fearthecowboy>and
15:43:16  <fearthecowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.130-any.msi
15:43:35  <fearthecowboy>I built the devtools pkg as a non-elevated user
15:44:32  <fearthecowboy>lync: https://join.microsoft.com/meet/garretts/KG54LYLR
16:32:12  <ender`>fearthecowboy: should i try?
16:37:32  <fearthecowboy>um. not quite yet.
16:43:27  <ender`>hah
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17:08:00  <fearthecowboy>ender` -> http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.242-any.msi
17:08:19  <fearthecowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.133-any.msi
17:08:31  <ender`>without cleaning first?
17:08:38  <fearthecowboy>yeah
17:08:39  <fearthecowboy>no clean
17:09:01  <fearthecowboy>for now, if you run the coapp installer, it will force a wipe every time
17:09:13  <fearthecowboy>and always run the coapp msi before devtools
17:09:33  <fearthecowboy>the dependency resolution won't work until the new feeds are live
17:11:33  <ender`>Coapp package manager is incompatible and must be removed first :)
17:11:52  <ender`>(btw, why is this window always on top and immovable?)
17:11:59  <auroraeosrose>^^^^ HATE
17:12:22  <ender`>(and clicking Yes, remove resulted in BWOD almost immediately - error 619)
17:13:35  <ender`>(according to dbgview, it has no idea where to find coapp.cleaner.1060.exe - doesn't look like it was trying to download it)
17:14:55  <fearthecowboy>hmmm.
17:15:01  * ender`has a new keyboard, and is pretty much learning to type anew
17:15:04  <fearthecowboy>it tries a bunch of variants for that stuff
17:15:18  <fearthecowboy>it's going to fail on a bunch, but it should eventually find coapp.cleaner
17:15:20  <fearthecowboy>.exe
17:15:23  <fearthecowboy>...
17:15:25  <fearthecowboy>OFFS:
17:15:26  <fearthecowboy>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/05/08/visual-studio-11-user-interface-updates-coming-in-rc.aspx
17:15:38  <fearthecowboy>VS11 still looks like crap
17:15:40  <fearthecowboy>*sigh*
17:16:27  <auroraeosrose>it's better
17:16:30  <auroraeosrose>you must admit
17:16:54  <fearthecowboy>I've been using it for a while. I'm not happy with it. the slight color is still ugly.
17:17:03  <fearthecowboy>the icons are hard to identify
17:17:26  <fearthecowboy>the dark theme is completely unusable
17:17:34  <ender`>http://p.0au.de/a21138df
17:17:38  <fearthecowboy>the ALL CAPS in the menu blows
17:18:06  <fearthecowboy>ender` -> so it does find the cleaner.
17:18:10  <fearthecowboy>but it still dies?
17:18:14  <fearthecowboy>grrr
17:18:18  <ender`>yes
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17:22:15  <fearthecowboy>was there anything else in the log?
17:25:30  <ender`>no
17:25:46  <fearthecowboy>did the cleaner run at all?
17:25:55  <fearthecowboy>or did it just immediately skip to the error?
17:26:05  <ender`>not as far as i could see
17:26:17  <ender`>pretty much
17:27:09  <ender`>http://eternallybored.org/imgs/comp/keyboard2.jpg
17:27:12  <fearthecowboy>BWOD with 619 right?
17:27:34  <ender`>yup
17:27:40  <fearthecowboy>if you run e:\Temp\OCache\temporary_downloads\coapp.cleaner.exe
17:27:45  <fearthecowboy>does the cleaner come up?
17:28:11  <ender`>it does
17:28:19  <fearthecowboy>WTF
17:28:49  <ender`>(with a console window in the background)
17:29:03  <fearthecowboy>hmmm.
17:29:05  <fearthecowboy>one sec.
17:33:46  <fearthecowboy>what's the size of that coall.cleaner.exe
17:35:06  <ender`>it's old - from 16.11.2011
17:35:11  <fearthecowboy>ah
17:35:13  <fearthecowboy>ok.
17:35:23  <fearthecowboy>gimme a moment.
17:36:47  <ender`>i'll be back later - my mother just came
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17:56:52  <FearTheCowboy>Hmm. Bluescreen'd again. I think it was my videocard. I've turned up the fan speed to see if that will keep it more stable.
18:08:47  <FearTheCowboy>Hmm. Found *another* one of those "Can't see how this possibly worked" bugs
18:09:25  <FearTheCowboy>actually, I know why it did work, but it was betting on big feeds that contained everything in the universe.
18:09:27  * virmitiodebates the wisdom of this drinking game...
18:10:16  <auroraeosrose>TWO
18:11:26  <virmitio>yes, yes, I know
18:13:10  <auroraeosrose>http://xkcd.com/1052/ - and I just keep singing this
18:14:01  <virmitio>auroraeosrose: but are you singing it to the right tune?
18:14:33  <auroraeosrose>of course
18:14:39  <auroraeosrose>I am a fan of gilbert and sullivan
18:14:49  <virmitio>ah, all is well, then
18:14:49  <auroraeosrose>you've never heard "modern major general" damn thing is catchy as sin
18:15:20  <auroraeosrose>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1VhsNOwPU
18:29:27  <virmitio>I do love that song. Though I have to admit, the song I remember best from Penzance is actually a song from Ruddigore that had been plugged into the middle of act 2 for the video production
18:29:37  <auroraeosrose>hehe
18:29:54  <auroraeosrose>the best penzance I ever saw did it as a ballet + musical
18:29:56  <auroraeosrose>it was awesome!
18:33:25  <FearTheCowboy>ender` ?
18:34:23  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.245-any.msi
18:34:33  <ender`>let's see
18:34:34  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.135-any.msi
18:34:43  * FearTheCowboycrosses fingers
18:35:42  <ender`>the window is still always on top and unmovable
18:36:16  <ender|>(but the cleaner now runs)
18:36:34  <FearTheCowboy>ontop/unmovable == costmetic problems that I'll get around to...
18:37:00  <ender|>cleaner is ontop, too
18:37:03  <FearTheCowboy>and after the cleaner runs?
18:37:18  <ender|>it's still running
18:37:59  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, the cleaner isn't the fastest, but I've tried to make it thorough.
18:38:13  <FearTheCowboy>I want to make sure that it gets *everything* that it should.
18:38:25  <FearTheCowboy>luckily, in the long run, running that should be raree.
18:38:25  <ender|>installing now
18:38:51  * FearTheCowboycrosses fingers again
18:39:01  <ender|>(progress bar at ~80%)
18:39:06  <FearTheCowboy>shit.
18:39:20  <FearTheCowboy>well, it's possible that it's still starting the enging.
18:39:22  <FearTheCowboy>engine.
18:39:23  <ender|>[8988] Error/CoApp Service-[3]Feed http://coapp.org/unstable was unable to load.
18:39:23  <ender|>[8988] Error/CoApp Service-[3]Feed http://coapp.org/current was unable to load.
18:39:23  <ender|>[8988] Error/CoApp Service-[3]Feed http://coapp.org/archive was unable to load.
18:39:32  <FearTheCowboy>those are expected at this time
18:40:12  <ender|>i can see the service running
18:40:18  <FearTheCowboy>We're looking for the messages:
18:40:18  <FearTheCowboy>[616] «Warning/CoApp Service»-CoApp Version : 1.2.0.245
18:40:18  <FearTheCowboy>[616] «Warning/CoApp Service»-CoApp Startup Finished------------------------------------------
18:40:26  <FearTheCowboy>which tells us that it should be servicing requests.
18:40:59  <ender|>[8988] Warning/CoApp Service-CoApp Version : 1.2.0.245
18:41:00  <ender|>[8988] Warning/CoApp Service-CoApp Startup Finished------------------------------------------
18:41:19  <ender|>that's somewhat higher in dbgview
18:41:54  <FearTheCowboy>hmm. so, it finished initing the service, but it didn't show the installer window (stuck on bootstrap?)
18:42:12  <FearTheCowboy>can you post the whole log?
18:42:37  <ender|>"It will be a moment while CoApp configures the system components" (progress at ~80%, window currently disabled)
18:42:57  <FearTheCowboy>That seems to be a fial
18:42:59  <FearTheCowboy>fail
18:43:12  <ender|>and done
18:43:19  <FearTheCowboy>REALLY?
18:43:23  <FearTheCowboy>it took that long?
18:43:27  <ender|>http://p.0au.de/946a03ff
18:43:53  <ender|>well, it's telling me it's currently installed, and i can Remove... or Cancel
18:44:07  <FearTheCowboy>YEah, that's what's expected right now
18:46:19  <FearTheCowboy>hmm. the timestamps don't copy out of dbgview.
18:46:25  <FearTheCowboy>silly dbgview
18:46:46  <FearTheCowboy>where is the long gap between messages in that dbgview list?
18:47:06  <ender|>look at the 4 messages from 2836
18:47:21  <ender|>(which incidentally include date and time)
18:47:51  <ender|>btw, the time of service starting is 20:37:27 and the CoApp welcome message is 20:42:16
18:48:07  <FearTheCowboy>5 minutes? OUCH
18:48:54  <FearTheCowboy>how long between [8988] Error/CoApp Service-[3]Feed http://coapp.org/archive was unable to load.
18:48:55  <FearTheCowboy>and
18:49:04  <FearTheCowboy>[5716] Information/CoApp.Toolkit-Response:[3]PackageDetails?canonicalName=coapp:coapp-1.2.0.245-any-1e373a58e25250cb&metadata[description]=This is the core component for CoApp.
18:49:47  <ender|>20:37:30.843 and 20:42:16.807
18:51:52  <ender|>log with times: http://p.0au.de/88b3f15d
18:54:20  <FearTheCowboy>ok. I'm going to build one with more logging in the scan portion. I gotta find out where it's choking.
19:03:10  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.246-any.msi
19:03:12  <FearTheCowboy>try that
19:03:28  <ender`>ok
19:04:40  <FearTheCowboy>then post the dbgview with timestamps, and I can see where we're losing
19:05:36  <ender|>i will. i'll just go feed the cats while it's installing
19:06:29  <FearTheCowboy>oh. I think I see where it's being stupid.... yours will confirm that.
19:11:06  <ender`>http://p.0au.de/1512ac42
19:11:55  <ender`>looks like it was fast this time :)
19:12:31  <FearTheCowboy>NOOOOOO!
19:12:42  <virmitio>lol
19:12:47  <ender`>mwahahahahaha
19:13:11  <virmitio>This is being recorded for posterity, yes?
19:13:31  <FearTheCowboy>someone said it was logged...
19:13:32  <auroraeosrose>LOL
19:13:35  <auroraeosrose>two drinks?
19:13:49  <FearTheCowboy>goddamnitanyway.
19:14:03  <FearTheCowboy>20 seconds after the cleaner was done this time.
19:14:09  <FearTheCowboy>what. the. frackin. hell.
19:15:05  <ender`>don't you just love heisenbugs?
19:15:17  <FearTheCowboy>run the previous build again... I wanna know if my logging made it faster.
19:15:30  <FearTheCowboy>hmm.
19:15:40  <FearTheCowboy>remove that msi from the folder tho'
19:16:14  <ender`>"upgrading"
19:16:28  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, it's set to always nuke right now
19:17:38  <ender`>finished
19:18:30  <FearTheCowboy>REAAAAAAALY.
19:18:43  <FearTheCowboy>that seemed a bit faster.
19:18:54  <ender`>yup
19:19:01  <ender`>a lot faster
19:20:25  <FearTheCowboy>WE ARE NOT AMUSED.
19:20:30  <ender`>http://p.0au.de/2fc9bc51
19:21:11  * FearTheCowboythinks ender's machine is just screwin' with me.
19:21:20  <ender`>hah
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19:29:22  <FearTheCowboy>however, I do see a place to eliminate some excessive cycle burn...
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20:11:12  <FearTheCowboy>ender: http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp-1.2.0.249-any.msi
20:11:19  <FearTheCowboy>make sure this one works too.
20:11:22  <ender`>ok
20:11:50  <FearTheCowboy>http://coapp.blob.core.windows.net/files/coapp.devtools-1.2.0.136-any.msi
20:13:51  <ender`>...and done
20:14:00  <FearTheCowboy>sounds pretty fast to me
20:15:51  <ender`>http://p.0au.de/142bc784
20:18:33  <FearTheCowboy>17 seconds after the cleaner was run. not too shabby.
20:18:51  <FearTheCowboy>UI was responsive?
20:19:14  <FearTheCowboy>(like, you weren't waiting to see something without a clue?)
20:19:32  <ender`>yes
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20:19:52  <FearTheCowboy>excellent
20:19:55  <FearTheCowboy>that's good to hear.
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22:34:00  <madewokherd>interesting, the Wine Mono msi brings up UI on windows but not on wine
22:36:07  <madewokherd>also the install fails and doesn't appear to have ruined .NET
22:38:06  <madewokherd>I guess I could try the initial version that doesn't do anything
22:38:38  <madewokherd>but I'm not set up to build it currently
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