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15:09:58  <FearTheCowboy>Good luck on your first day auroraeosrose !
15:10:27  <auroraeosrose>thanks FearTheCowboy
15:10:37  <auroraeosrose>it started out ... um... not fun (and I have not yet had a shower - fail)
15:12:22  <FearTheCowboy>:(
15:12:49  <FearTheCowboy>Could be worse... I've now managed to lock up Visual Studio (VS11)during debugging of my code. Can't kill it, or my own process.
15:13:25  <auroraeosrose>... that magic
15:13:32  <FearTheCowboy>I'm so screwed
15:13:36  <auroraeosrose>ctl-alt-delete or just push the button?
15:13:40  <FearTheCowboy>Yeaaaaah.
15:13:46  <auroraeosrose>this is why I do all dev in a vm now
15:13:56  <auroraeosrose>"oh look, I've totally screwed this"
15:13:57  <auroraeosrose>reset
15:13:58  <FearTheCowboy>At least when I locked up dev10, it had the decency to die eventually
15:14:04  <auroraeosrose>I have a sick kid home too - annoying thging
15:14:16  <FearTheCowboy>Yeah, I got one home sick today too.,
15:14:38  <FearTheCowboy>dmex -> got any hidden secrets for killing unkillable tasks?
15:15:26  <FearTheCowboy>I'm actually dogfooding a more recent Win8 build. Not angry at it yet, this is a goood sign.
15:15:42  <FearTheCowboy>I'm actually 24 hours in, and fairly happy.
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15:21:15  <ender`>is the multimonitor support improved any?
15:23:49  <auroraeosrose>is there a start menu? LOL
15:25:00  <ender`>haha
15:26:32  <ender|>note to self: do not ever try to put your computer to sleep. not only it doesn't work, it messes up everything
15:27:04  <virmitio>ender|: this is fact
15:27:51  <FearTheCowboy>multimonitor support is a bit less clunky
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15:28:25  <FearTheCowboy>You can bring up the charms and start popup (hot corners) on any monitor now.
15:28:28  <FearTheCowboy>that's waaaay better
15:28:55  <FearTheCowboy>it's actually not killing me.
15:29:04  <ender|>("doesn't work": goes to sleep, never to wake up again [had to unplug the machine before it'd boot up]; "messes up everything": newsgroups in my newsreader shuffled around, most of the custom folders in my e-mail client disappeared, toolbars in my taskbar disappeared)
15:30:28  <ender|>i'd still like to see how that works (hot corners in consumer preview are tiny, and thus hard to target when they're not an actual corner)
15:31:53  <FearTheCowboy>I've had less trouble hitting them. not sure if they are 4x4 or 5x5
15:32:02  <FearTheCowboy>but at least they are on all desktops now
15:32:15  <FearTheCowboy>which makes it waaaaay easier to find one to hit
15:33:02  <FearTheCowboy>I still don't really like the start "page", but most of my stuff is pinned to a task bar, and I also use ViStart to get a start menu back.
15:33:23  <FearTheCowboy>I still haven't run a metro app. Don't see the point, really.
15:33:34  <ender|>haha
15:34:16  <FearTheCowboy>I can't see the reason I'd ever want to run something "fullscreen" (which is full to a single monitor) when I've got six screens
15:34:48  <ender|>...and people look at my desk weirdly when i have 4 monitors...
15:35:07  <FearTheCowboy>this is the first version I've managed to load the ATI CCC on and have it not crash, so I can reset the overscan options on the monitors that use HDMI
15:35:31  <ender|>i avoid ati like plague thanks to their drivers
15:36:19  <FearTheCowboy>I've been screwed over so much by both ATI and NVidia, I can't care anymore.
15:36:33  <FearTheCowboy>my machine in my office has 3x High end nvidia cards
15:36:33  <ender|>i've had far less problems with nvidia than ati
15:36:39  <FearTheCowboy>at home I have 2x ATIs
15:36:45  <FearTheCowboy>each set drives six monitors.
15:36:51  <ender|>(at work i have nvidia+intel)
15:37:19  <ender|>this is how the work machine looked when i got it: http://eternallybored.org/imgs/comp/donotremove.jpg
15:38:01  <FearTheCowboy>LOL
15:38:42  <ender|>the reason for that is intel's drivers lock up the machine if you connect any monitor and the card isn't primary
15:38:52  <virmitio>awesome
15:39:07  <ender|>(well, at least i think that's the reason - still, it was fun seeing that)
15:39:19  <ender|>set the on-board card as primary, and everything work
15:40:31  <ender|>there is another curious thing about that machine: the nvidia card that came with it is GeForce 420. somebody decided that it would be good to put 2GB RAM on it (the machine came with 4GB RAM, but i upgraded that to 8GB)
15:41:07  <FearTheCowboy>niiice
15:41:50  <FearTheCowboy>the problem I have with my ATIs is that they are 1gb. Driving six monitors with Aero pushes DWM to the limit with that much video memory :)
15:42:49  <ender|>GT420 is the lowest of the low you can get - there wouldn't be any difference if it only had 512MB
15:44:25  <virmitio>ender|: obviously someone expected you to be working with REALLY big textures
15:44:34  <ender|>yeah
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16:13:50  <FearTheCowboy>DRINNK
16:14:05  <auroraeosrose>not my fault!
16:14:10  <auroraeosrose>reinstalling virtualbox ;)
16:14:23  <virmitio>and why is that not your fault?
16:14:53  <ender`>if you want, vmware has currently a tech preview available that works till October
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16:15:40  <auroraeosrose>I like virtualbox
16:15:46  <auroraeosrose>I reinstalled my machine, still fiddling with stuff
16:16:07  <ender`>i've got both
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19:20:02  <ender|>http://youtu.be/69AOza1LJHY
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19:22:58  <dmex><@FearTheCowboy> dmex -> got any hidden secrets for killing unkillable tasks? <-- Yes, right click the process and go Terminator ;)
19:23:41  <dmex>17 differernt ways to terminate, something will kill it
19:24:27  <virmitio>dmex: I don't suppose that one of those is labeled "light fuse, run away"?
19:25:39  * dmexlikes this idea :D
19:26:46  <dmex>virmitio: the third last option is similar (TT4)
19:27:32  <ender|>dmex: how likely is that one of the 17 ways will cause the machine to BSOD instead?
19:29:05  <dmex>ender|: depends entirely if the process is set as critical
19:29:34  <auroraeosrose>this is when I push the shiny button on the front and let windows figure it out
19:30:14  <dmex>all these options are built-into windows
19:30:40  <dmex>PH can't kill a process if ntos can't
19:32:38  <dmex>http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2007/05/03/2383346.aspx
19:33:12  <dmex>ntos does some ugly stuff just exiting a process anyway
19:34:01  <auroraeosrose>Wait, it gets worse. - is this Tim's blog?
19:34:38  <virmitio>not that I'm aware of
19:34:46  <virmitio>but you can take a drink anyway, if you'd like
19:34:54  <auroraeosrose>and again!
19:34:56  <auroraeosrose>two drinks
19:34:58  <auroraeosrose>ROCK ON
19:35:25  <dmex>lol, you should know Raymond Chen :)
19:36:06  <auroraeosrose>dmex: yes yes, I do ;) but tim always uses that phrase....
19:36:18  <auroraeosrose>maybe hes a clone "whispers"
19:36:47  <dmex>Clones of raymond? o_O
19:37:19  <dmex>No joke, we do need more of them
19:38:01  <dmex>recent favorite post: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/04/25/10297385.aspx
19:39:24  <auroraeosrose>LOL
19:40:25  <ender|>tif file are evil!
19:42:23  <virmitio>I'm sure such a vent would now have solid cover with at least two padlocks at such a company
19:42:56  <ender|>(did i mention how i hate blogs that have URLs with /yyyy/mm/dd/ in them, which don't allow you to actually cut the URL at these points?)
19:46:01  <dmex>I don't mind the dates, just the random xxxxx at the ends
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19:47:54  <ender|>i'm used to do the up-left gesture in Opera (up one dir), which in most blogs will list that day's topics (and if i repeat it, i'll get month's topics). not on msdn though - i get redirected to Error 9 page
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23:53:31  <auroraeosrose>bah humbug - still haven't found a really nice windows twitter client I like