00:00:05  <auroraeosrose>hehehe
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00:04:53  <auroraeosrose>libiconv, gettext, font-config, freetype2, pixman, cairo, pango, glib, libjpeg, libtiff, librsvg
00:28:07  <madewokherd>you don't really need libjpeg/libtiff
00:29:17  <auroraeosrose>how else do you build the pixbuf loaders for them
00:29:38  <auroraeosrose>they might be "optional" but they're used a lot
00:31:37  <madewokherd>gdiplus
00:35:47  <auroraeosrose>...
00:35:50  <auroraeosrose>php-gtk
00:35:53  <auroraeosrose>uh, no ;)
00:36:16  <auroraeosrose>if I were writing a C app maybe....
01:14:12  <madewokherd>there's a gdiplus pixbuf loader
01:14:17  <madewokherd>which can load jpeg/tiff
01:20:50  <auroraeosrose>exactly like the libjpeg version?
01:21:01  <auroraeosrose>cause that would be nice if it works the same as on nix ;)
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03:46:01  <madewokherd>all I know is what the readme said
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16:09:45  <virmitio>auroraeosrose: how goes the work on the php fork?
16:11:41  * auroraeosrosemumbles
16:11:54  <virmitio>that bad, huh?
16:12:05  <auroraeosrose>no, I just keep getting pulled away for other things
16:12:11  <auroraeosrose>stupid real job
16:12:38  <virmitio>yeah, they keep getting in the way of being productive
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21:07:03  <ender`>hah, somebody from Microsoft sent an e-mail about screenshot plugin issue to the gimp-developer mailing list, and my antivirus marked the message as high risk
21:08:03  <virmitio>beware those crazy MS folks, and their potentially infected jpegs...
21:10:11  <ender`><Mikachu> bloody idiot sending half meg attachments to developer list
21:10:11  <ender`><Mikachu> he managed to set his email headers so 'reply to all' doesn't include the mailing list too...
21:19:50  <ender|>http://citeomatic.com/_asdf.html (open with Opera or Firefox)
21:20:32  <auroraeosrose>niiice
21:20:52  <auroraeosrose>I can with firebug
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21:21:00  <auroraeosrose>nice css
21:21:22  <ender|>but where does it come from? :)
21:22:29  <auroraeosrose>Link<_asdf.css>;rel="stylesheet";type="text/css";media="all"
21:22:33  <auroraeosrose>firebug ;)
21:22:40  <auroraeosrose>only reason I even USE firefox
21:22:52  <ender|>hah
21:22:58  <auroraeosrose>that's a pretty evil trick there
21:23:01  <ender|>Opera's dragonfly reveals the same
21:23:11  <auroraeosrose>seriously, it IS the only reason I use firefox
21:23:27  * auroraeosroseuses 3 million firebug plugins too
21:24:08  <auroraeosrose>that is a pretty evil little hack though
21:24:25  <virmitio>page is much less exciting in IE and chrome
21:24:26  <ender`>brb, upgrading virtualbox
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22:17:23  <saivert>nice html:after {content trick...
22:18:26  <ender|>you mean the Link: header trick
22:19:26  <saivert>oh..
22:19:31  <saivert>didn't know about that
22:19:37  <saivert>where is that specified?
22:19:53  <saivert>is it an official spec?
22:19:56  <ender|>http://www.w3.org/Protocols/9707-link-header.html
22:22:09  <saivert>seems like Firefox applies the style when viewing the source as well.
22:22:39  <saivert>I dislike the fact that Firefox reloads the page when displaying source instead of just using the already loaded document
22:22:55  <ender|>really? that's stupid
22:23:03  <auroraeosrose>it is
22:23:24  <ender|>opera just sends the cache file to whatever source viewer you've got set up
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22:23:52  <saivert>A nice feature of IE was that it even displayed the in-memory source of a page so if a javascript had used document.write() you would see this output as well.
22:23:52  <ender|>(which you can then change, save, and select Reload from cache)
22:24:08  <ender|>Opera's Dragonfly lets you see that
22:24:18  <ender|>i'd imagine Firebug does the same
22:24:39  <saivert>The built-in dev tools in Firefox gets better and better
22:24:54  <saivert>still not reached feature parity with Firebug yet though
22:26:36  <saivert>but it has console for viewing HTTP requests, inspecing elements and styles and debug JS.
22:26:44  <saivert>the essentials
22:27:11  <saivert>features like this should be part of the browser. not some add-on
22:27:21  <saivert>so I'm expecting the need for Firebug will go away eventually
22:32:29  <bob>sounds like the dev tools are better than the browser itself.
22:33:28  <auroraeosrose>this is truth
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22:33:35  <auroraeosrose>only use firefox ... for firebug
22:34:09  <bob>my biggest beef is that firefox still does not honor the "check for updates at startup" option when you turn it off.
22:34:26  <bob>sure, it might not look up the gecko update, but it still checks the plugins.
22:34:32  <bob>and that wastes so much time on launch
22:36:03  <bob>also mozilla dropped the ball on both firefox and thunderbird ui on windows 7. thunderbird is the worst offender by far.
22:36:34  <bob>i spent a few hours adding padding and margins to usercss and all the sudden i had a really nice looking mail client. no reason they should have ignored that.
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