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00:08:19  <Leemp>ooo, cloud9 has a Google+ account
00:08:24  <Leemp>You guys should make a page for it
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13:52:52  <TermNL>Possibly an obvious question, but a quick google didn't help much. Is there an easy way to disable/hide the console in the lower part of the screen? Some config file perhaps? The menu in the IDE itself only seems to be making the console smaller/larger
13:53:22  <mattpardee>hey TermNL
13:53:27  <TermNL>Hi
13:53:35  <mattpardee>the easiest way is a bit of a hack
13:54:01  <mattpardee>1 sec
13:54:31  <TermNL>Thanks!
13:55:45  <mattpardee>in your debugger console, like in Inspector in Chrome or Safari
13:55:48  <mattpardee>or Firebug in FF
13:55:53  <mattpardee>enter this into the console: winDbgConsole.hide();
13:56:04  <mattpardee>then resize the browser
13:56:49  <TermNL>Allright, thanks !
13:57:15  <TermNL>Yep, worked
13:58:35  <mattpardee>Curious to know if that's for aesthetic reasons
13:58:43  <mattpardee>or because of limited vertical space, or.. ?
13:59:47  <Chip_Zero>it's for a screenshot :)
14:00:33  <mattpardee>ah :)
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14:08:58  <ggoodman>I'm getting some weird behaviour with this week's update to the ace component. Specifically, attempting to make a large selection of text from a point late in the document to an offscreen point higher in the document is not selecting the expected text. Anyone else reporting this?
14:11:06  <ggoodman>To reproduce: Put cursor at start of document then scroll down in document. Hold shift and click. Text actually selected appears to reflect the cursor position as if the document had not been scrolled.
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14:13:07  <mattpardee>ggoodman interesting, I'll test in a sec
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14:17:22  <mattpardee>FYI everyone, on the master branch
14:17:36  <mattpardee>we now have quicksearch for the "Open Files" dialog
14:17:56  <mattpardee>a la SublimeText, or Ctrl+Q in Coda
14:18:06  <mattpardee>the dialog has also been redesigned
14:18:30  <ggoodman>what's the key combo?
14:18:42  <mattpardee>Cmd/Ctrl-R
14:18:49  <mattpardee>(Cmd-Shift-R is now refresh)
14:19:01  <mattpardee>or you can use the old keybinding, Alt-Shift-R
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14:29:46  <ggoodman>mattpardee: is my cache out of date or is this a new 'feature' of ACE? ;-)
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14:43:56  <mattpardee>ggoodman hehe
14:44:01  <mattpardee>lemme see
14:44:19  <mattpardee>aha I see now, you're right
14:46:03  <ggoodman>git blame!!!! >:P
14:46:14  <ggoodman>i kid, i kid... i have no idea what git blame does
14:46:21  <mattpardee>haha
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14:50:00  <ggoodman>mattpardee: also noted is that scrolling of the editor canvas is strangely fast now while hilighting
14:55:50  <mattpardee>ggoodman the scrolling/selection behavior has been fixed in the latest master of ACE
14:56:17  <ggoodman>fantastic :)
14:57:00  <mattpardee>just checked, confirmed it works
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15:00:32  <mattpardee>FYI all we're having a discussion on github about whether to change the new Cmd-R open files keybinding to Cmd-O: https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/pull/1266
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15:08:15  <mattpardee>ggoodman https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9/pull/1267, just waiting for it to get merged in
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15:13:18  <hoverbear>Hey all, having issues with c9 in chrome, I can start a project but I can't seem to open any files?
15:13:37  <mattpardee>hey hoverbear, lemme take a look
15:14:05  <mattpardee>opening works for me, what's your project URL?
15:14:15  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Steps to reproduce: Open Chrome, go to C9, log in, open project, right click on any file, click edit
15:14:23  <mattpardee>ah I'll try that
15:14:35  <mattpardee>yeah the edit item also works for me
15:14:41  <hoverbear>wtf :S
15:14:46  <mattpardee>might be your specific project
15:14:52  <mattpardee>you can DM me the URL if you want
15:14:53  <hoverbear>I've tried several
15:14:59  <hoverbear>http://c9.io/hoverbear/javascriptplayground
15:15:03  <mattpardee>could also be your user dir
15:15:19  <mattpardee>works for me, so that's not it
15:15:25  <hoverbear>I've tried it on two different OSes and on 2 different dev channels of chrome
15:15:26  <mattpardee>do you get any errors in your javascript console?
15:15:42  <mattpardee>ah dev channel
15:15:44  <hoverbear>55d6ff1xmuve0sx.cloudfront.net/1.9.9-1203a41b/static/core/ide.js:62An error occurred, the Cloud9 system admin has been notified.
15:15:48  <hoverbear>I've tried dev and stable
15:15:51  <mattpardee>k
15:16:24  <hoverbear>That's the error on my console
15:16:37  <mattpardee>ggoodman merged, thanks zefhemel :)
15:16:53  <mattpardee>hoverbear ok what does your network look like
15:17:02  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Wah?
15:17:09  <mattpardee>behind any kind of independent firewall, something else that's unique
15:17:12  <mattpardee>about your network setup?
15:17:21  <hoverbear>Just a router and my machine
15:17:32  <ggoodman>thanks mattpardee and zefhemel (silent bug killer)
15:17:34  <zefhemel>if you load the c9.io url with ?dev it should show the error in the JS console
15:17:45  <zefhemel>or so I hear
15:17:48  <mattpardee>ah yes
15:17:48  <ggoodman>oh, I take that back... silent no more!
15:18:01  <zefhemel>WEEEEEEEEEEH :)
15:18:13  <zefhemel>I'm just the pusher of green buttons
15:18:14  <mattpardee>battle cry
15:18:24  <zefhemel>not in a drug sense
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15:18:45  <hoverbear>http://dpaste.com/730696/
15:18:47  <mattpardee>yeah Zef is one of our new free-range developers
15:18:51  <ggoodman>i'll take whatever 'green buttons' you're pushing.. seems to result in good code
15:18:55  <mattpardee>we let him out of the green-button cage for an hour a day
15:19:13  <hoverbear>Chromes javascript console has ugly pastes :S
15:19:34  <zefhemel>a google analytics error, nice
15:20:08  <mattpardee>yeah in Google Chrome :-D
15:20:08  <hoverbear>I blocked them that's why :-P
15:20:18  <hoverbear>Oh, I can expand the error
15:20:20  <hoverbear>http://dpaste.com/730698/
15:20:44  <hoverbear>Thjat's what I get when trying to edit a file
15:21:32  <zefhemel>that's so weird, I don't see what google analytics has to do with editing
15:21:38  <zefhemel>and you block analytics?
15:21:42  <mattpardee>it's a request right
15:21:46  <mattpardee>it must hook into that
15:21:56  <mattpardee>XHR
15:21:59  <mattpardee>?
15:22:47  <mattpardee>Anyway I'm not sure what to do there
15:22:50  <hoverbear>I turned off the blocker
15:22:56  <hoverbear>Sec, just loading
15:23:01  <hoverbear>Ah
15:23:05  <hoverbear>Looks like that was the problem
15:23:13  <hoverbear>Weirdddd.
15:23:16  <zefhemel>indeed
15:23:24  <hoverbear>Okay cool.
15:23:30  <zefhemel>maybe the blocker just broke the whole thing somehow
15:23:36  <hoverbear>Thanks for the help zefhemel, mattpardee
15:24:08  <mattpardee>np!
15:24:14  <hoverbear>Now, I want to set up a local instance of C9 (I do work when not connected to the net) is it particularly difficult to do?
15:24:33  <mattpardee>not particularly no
15:24:43  <hoverbear>Cool. :) That'll be my project for the night then
15:24:50  <mattpardee>https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9
15:24:56  <mattpardee>there's an "Installation" section down the page
15:25:05  <zefhemel>unless you're on Windows
15:25:12  <hoverbear>Debian :)
15:25:17  <zefhemel>ok
15:26:15  <hoverbear>Thanks!
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15:33:56  <hoverbear>Oh, hrm, I might run into issues since I'm already running apache
15:38:54  <mattpardee>hoverbear shouldn't be an issue, C9 runs on port 3000 by default
15:39:05  <mattpardee>and you can always specify a port with the -p flag
15:39:14  <hoverbear>Damn that's neat
15:45:13  <mattpardee>ok everyone
15:45:24  <mattpardee>the new quicksearch was merged in and its command is now Cmd/Ctrl-E
15:46:24  <mattpardee>now you no longer have to search for files it will automatically retain the most active list of files
15:46:46  <hoverbear>=D
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15:48:38  <ggoodman>bingo bango!
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18:39:01  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Hey, with the integrated command line in Cloud 9, if I run it on my own server, would I be able to make a full shell available? With cp, rm, etc?
18:39:21  <mattpardee>yes it will interact with your local filesystem
18:39:36  <hoverbear>Wow that's awesome.
18:39:41  <mattpardee>rm, cp, pwd, ls.. I think that's about it
18:39:58  <mattpardee>in the future we'll put in a more interactive shell
18:40:05  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Nothing else?
18:40:12  <hoverbear>Interesting
18:40:21  <mattpardee>hoverbear not in a product that exists in a hosted environment
18:40:37  <mattpardee>the workaround here is really the interactive shell
18:40:41  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Well in a local machine enviroment (Eg I have full access)
18:40:50  <mattpardee>yeah
18:41:32  <mattpardee>hoverbear look in server/cloud9/ext/shell/shell.js
18:41:39  <hoverbear>Okay.
18:41:43  <mattpardee>oh yeah and `mv` is the other one we support
18:41:56  <mattpardee>you can customize that list yourself, adding commands you want
18:42:19  <hoverbear>Neat!
18:42:27  <mattpardee>be forewarned though that you'll have trouble with commands that need stdin
18:42:50  <mattpardee>anyway we're working on making that a better experience :)
18:43:14  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Right. So bascially what I'm seeing is you have already started making what I was planning on trying to make.
18:43:48  <mattpardee>I hope that's a good thing :)
18:45:04  <hoverbear>mattpardee: :) We've been talking on #funtoo about browser-based remote shells and I was trying to figure out how to implement one and I had a mockup that looked remarkably like a modified cloud9 UI
18:45:19  <hoverbear>Just less text editing and more server-admin-y
18:46:22  <mattpardee>so we'll be moving towards an interactive shell experience in the coming weeks
18:46:30  <mattpardee>we'll be making steps towards that goal
18:46:37  <ggoodman>hoverbear: i think i've seen a remote shell implementation recently
18:46:55  <mattpardee>first you'll see the ability to cancel a running process
18:47:02  <mattpardee>and see a spinner related to the status of the process
18:47:10  <mattpardee>then there will be the ability to have multiple tabs
18:47:28  <hoverbear>Yup so you were making what I was thinking of :)
18:47:29  <mattpardee>and the ability to interact (stdin) with the process, etc
18:47:49  <mattpardee>and then finally, you'll be able to run your node modules from the CLI
18:48:03  <mattpardee>that last part I've already got working, but the CLI needs to be interactive first before it makes sense
18:48:09  <hoverbear>mattpardee: So basically what you're saying is instead of learning Javascript and making my own, I should learn javascript and play forky-fork with cloud 9 and push changes?
18:48:29  <mattpardee>hoverbear that'd be great! And I'm here to help you out on that front
18:48:39  <hoverbear>=D
18:48:57  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Cool. I got finals for the next 8 days then I'll start digging in and trying to figure stuff out.
18:49:13  <mattpardee>awesome
18:49:30  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Don't expect much though I've never touched webdev before, evar.
18:49:54  <hoverbear>Back in my day the web was for porn, not development
18:50:01  <mattpardee>hoverbear no problem, I have a zen-like expectation-less expectation
18:50:22  <hoverbear>mattpardee: A good philosophy
18:50:32  <mattpardee>Having no attachment to code is a necessity
18:50:37  <mattpardee>anyway
18:50:43  <mattpardee>ok back to work :)
18:50:58  <hoverbear>:)
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19:15:11  <hoverbear>Mmm, having another issue (Oh boy!).... When editing a file (In this case shell.js that we spoke of above) in CLoud9, and I scroll around, then sometimes when I click where I wish for my cursor to be, the editor jumps a bit and I have a medium-ish block of text selected
19:15:35  <mattpardee>yeah we just discovered some issue with ACE
19:15:44  <mattpardee>I think the latest Cloud9 master is broken
19:15:49  <hoverbear>Ah alright
19:15:49  <mattpardee>we might have to do some repo pruning
19:15:54  <mattpardee>for now, do this...
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19:16:30  <mattpardee>git checkout 7872083e
19:16:36  <mattpardee>git submodule update --init --recursive
19:17:06  <hoverbear>I am running from c9.io :)
19:17:13  <mattpardee>oh, well then
19:17:17  <mattpardee>that explains it :)
19:17:40  <hoverbear>Figured I should try it out 'offical' before trying to set up my own local copy
19:17:40  <mattpardee>we were aware of that before but we'll udpate ace again on the live site soon
19:17:53  <mattpardee>tomorrow or early next week
19:17:55  <hoverbear>Cool. :)
19:18:38  <hoverbear>Ah man this is nicer then Visual Studio
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19:38:12  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Yup this is way nice. :) Great job.
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19:39:25  <mattpardee>for anyone who *happened* to pull aster in the last few hours or so, please pull again. there was a faulty merge made in that we just removed
19:39:26  <mattpardee>:)
19:39:29  <mattpardee>master*
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22:23:38  <mattpardee>quick question for all here
22:23:49  <mattpardee>have you guys been seeing any duplicate messages in the console output area
22:23:52  <mattpardee>in the past week or so
22:23:56  <Leemp>Not i
22:24:05  <Leemp>Very pleased with that :)
22:24:06  <mattpardee>I think that's finally resolved w/ the backend refactor
22:24:24  <Leemp>I saw a *lack* of messages earlier today, but i likely need to refresh lol. It's been a while
22:25:05  <Leemp>Chrome seems to stop all JS inside of it if i debug JS in another window.. so i imagine that could screw with c9.io
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23:42:13  <hoverbear>mattpardee: Javascript is a strange language. :-P
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